G20 I am Bulgarian and in principle I should be a Christian, but I am not very religious. I am in love with a colleague from the university, who is now 22 years old. After I met him, he told me that he was a Muslim. He has a Turkish name, he is not a Turk, but he is a Muslim. He treats me very well, he is kind and would always help me if I need him. The problem is that after we got closer, I sank a lot. I fall asleep and wake up thinking about him. I'm constantly looking for an excuse to be by his side. I'm in love and I can't imagine being with anyone else. My question is: Would a Muslim go with a Christian? Most of his friends are Pomaks like him and do not have very close Bulgarian friends. I'm not a believer, I'm not familiar with these things, and I'm worried that it will be a problem for him to be with me for "religious reasons." What is your opinion on the matter?
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The Pomaks are no longer what we once were. The world is globalizing, many of them live in the West or at least in the big Bulgarian cities, they were educated, etc. There are already quite mixed marriages. They even got baptized a lot. I will not comment on whether this is good. My grandmother's generation is quite rigid, but my father's generation is better, and our practice is just like the Bulgarians. So if it is not under the influence of the old there will hardly be a problem. If he lives in a village like Ribnovo, it will probably be a problem, but if he thinks of living in the city - absurd.
If he is a Pomak, then he is a Bulgarian Muslim, so you are two Bulgarians who look at each other as if they were strangers, hahaha, this Bulgarian tribe is a terrible thing, what reasons do they invent to share. I will give an example with the Albanians - there are also Christians and Muslims there, but they are united and the important thing is that they are Albanians, while with the Bulgarians the exact opposite, fuck the tribe, fuck the miracle. As for religion ... what year are we ??? Alooo, enter the 21st century and live like normal people, and that automatically excludes religion, if you're going to pretend to be very religious, put on your headscarves and trousers to see you ... but I doubt it.
My opinion is that you will put a thorn in your ass!
Number 2, of course he is a Bulgarian Muslim, I hope there is no one stupid enough not to know. Otherwise, if at a later stage he agrees that the children should be Christians, yes, they have deviated from the Bulgarian faith, not you.
We are such a family, my husband describes himself as a Turk. His mother, father, grandparents and great-grandparents were born in Bulgaria, in the town of Kuklen. My great-grandparents are from Edirne Thrace, we even have various properties there, but I define myself as a Bulgarian. Soon in our son's kindergarten, I saw that they were mistaken and wrote that our child was bilingual (speaks 2 languages), only they had written Turkish-mother and Bulgarian-father. Maybe because my husband is light, blond and blue-eyed, and I have dark hair and eyes. Well, think how blurred these ... differences are already. We celebrate all holidays and Christmas and Eid, my husband lights candles in the church, for his close Christians who are no longer among us. He did not set foot in a mosque, however. He is ashamed that he does not know how to pray and his parents also do not know what to do. On top of that, we go to yoga, his father told us that if we choose another religion, our lives will be spent on holidays. Well, don't care. Whoever God is, whatever name you choose for him, he is Love. Love of self and love of neighbor
You serious. You know he's stocking you up now but then ......
Horror .. remember there are Bulgarians in Bulgarians. They can be: Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, etc. Is there a BG ID card is Bulgarian. The unification of a "Muslim" with a "Turk" is dangerous for the integrity of the state.
In the beginning, every man behaves kindly and well, whether he is a Christian or a Buddhist or a Muslim. The goal is clear.
Hello, number 7, teach me the Bulgarian language then!
He may have written it with errors, but 7 is very correct. People with a lot of prejudice, unfortunately. They think that everyone different from them is something, she is crazy, she is sick, she is a terrorist, she is a psychopath, without even knowing him ... I am not interested in the topic at all, but I am fed up with people who judge and measure others by their little souls.
Finally, learn the difference between nationality, ethnicity and religion. The nationalities are determined by the passport, no matter what language they speak at home, English, Turkish, Gypsy, Armenian and it does not matter what name they have, whether they have a Bulgarian ID card, they are Bulgarians. Ethnic groups are a kind of subdivision of the citizens of a country and in Bulgaria there is an ethnic group of Bulgarians, an ethnic group of Pomaks, an ethnic group of Tsitsani, an ethnic group of Turks as well. for religions I guess you know a little more, but as I look again you are mistaken when you say that someone was a Pomak and had a Turkish name, not ladies he has not a Turkish but a Muslim name, the difference is huge. Of course, there are Turkish names, there are also Muslim ones, but the Pomaks are Bulgarian Muslims, they do not speak Turkish and would baptize their child with a name from those mentioned in the religion / much more ancient name /, and not with a Turkish one. I hope you realize for example, that the name Maria is religious, not Bulgarian. And all Turkish names have a translation from Turkish, Muslim ones have a translation from older languages or rituals, for example Sadaka is a kind of alms, and most Bulgarian names have been forgotten by the Bulgarians themselves. For example, did you know that Kali, Kalina means red, from red comes our word for the ladybug insect.
In my opinion, it depends on how much religion and parents have an influence on him.
We are a mixed marriage. I am a Christian and he is a Muslim, I honor his holidays, he mine. Even after 4 years together, his family does not accept me for them, I am the gyaurka. If you have nerves, fight for him. deepen things whether his parents will accept you, I hope they are so.Otherwise they are very caring and care about the family.My husband says that we all believe in one god, we just tell him differently.
Much depends on what family he is. If his family firmly professes Islam, over time you may find some customs and beliefs absurd, as well as a certain type of behavior. Many things will seem to you the opposite of your nature. But if he comes from a more modern and less religious family, the fact that he bears a Turkish name does not make him less Bulgarian than all of us. I am also not a believer, precisely because of these differences in the beliefs and morals of the people who challenge the religions in question - there are many absurd situations, not to mention wars. This is another topic already.
In my opinion, if you have a problem that has nothing to do with the particular person, it will not be with his religion, but with the fact that he is a Pomak, and more precisely not so much with himself as with the family. him. My mother is from a region where the Pomaks are a very compact group and we played during the summer holidays and in general it is not like I don't know Pomaks. Their attitude towards religion, and in general towards people outside their community (even if they are Muslims), is very delicate. You, as a woman, will probably be accepted more easily, but if you were a Christian man who had an affair with a pomakinya, then wait and see what circuses you would experience. In general, the really young Pomaks are very open to the world, and yet they are relatively conservative (not as much as their parents and grandparents, of course), that's why I say that you probably won't have any problems with the person himself, because he is probably integrated with modern understandings, but it is not clear whether things are the same with his family. Well, at some point you will see them, and you will be able to judge what kind of people they are, but in general, keep in mind that it is more than possible that they are not particularly fascinated by the choice of the boy, if he decides to have relationship with you, because as far as I understand from your story, it turns out that you are in love with him, and he does not know what his opinion is. As it is called, the fish is still in the sea, and you put the pan, and even in your case, when I look, you have already fried it and eaten it ... First see if there is interest in you, then see if things really happen between you as a couple, and only then think about religion and who will accept you. ;) because it is probably integrated with modern understandings, but it is not clear whether things are the same with his family. Well, at some point you will see them, and you will be able to judge what kind of people they are, but in general, keep in mind that it is more than possible that they are not particularly fascinated by the choice of the boy, if he decides to have relationship with you, because as far as I understand from your story, it turns out that you are in love with him, and he does not know what his opinion is. As it is called, the fish is still in the sea, and you put the pan, and even in your case, when I look, you have already fried it and eaten it ... First see if there is interest in you, then see if things really happen between you as a couple, and only then think about religion and who will accept you. ;) because it is probably integrated with modern understandings, but it is not clear whether things are the same with his family. Well, at some point you will see them, and you will be able to judge what kind of people they are, but in general, keep in mind that it is more than possible that they are not particularly fascinated by the choice of the boy, if he decides to have relationship with you, because as far as I understand from your story, it turns out that you are in love with him, and he does not know what his opinion is. As it is called, the fish is still in the sea, and you put the pan, and even in your case, when I look, you have already fried it and eaten it ... First see if there is interest in you, then see if things really happen between you as a couple, and only then think about religion and who will accept you. ;) at some point you will see them, and you will be able to judge what kind of people they are, but in general keep in mind that it is more than possible that they are not particularly fascinated by the choice of the boy, if he decides to have a relationship with you, because as far as I understand from your story, it turns out that you are in love with him, and he does not know what his opinion is. As it is called, the fish is still in the sea, and you put the pan, and even in your case, when I look, you have already fried it and eaten it ... First see if there is interest in you, then see if things really happen between you as a couple, and only then think about religion and who will accept you. ;) you will see them at some point, and you will be able to judge what kind of people they are, but in general keep in mind that it is more than possible that they are not particularly fascinated by the choice of the boy, if he decides to have a relationship with you, because as far as I understand from your story, it turns out that you are in love with him, and he does not know what his opinion is. As it is called, the fish is still in the sea, and you put the pan, and even in your case, when I look, you have already fried it and eaten it ... First see if there is interest in you, then see if things really happen between you as a couple, and only then think about religion and who will accept you. ;) because as far as I understand from your story, it turns out that you are in love with him, and it is not known what his opinion is. As it is called, the fish is still in the sea, and you put the pan, and even in your case, when I look, you have already fried it and eaten it ... First see if there is interest in you, then see if things really happen between you as a couple, and only then think about religion and who will accept you. ;) because as far as I understand from your story, it turns out that you are in love with him, and it is not known what his opinion is. As it is called, the fish is still in the sea, and you put the pan, and even in your case, when I look, you have already fried it and eaten it ... First see if there is interest in you, then see if things really happen between you as a couple, and only then think about religion and who will accept you. ;)
Up to number 11: There is no Pomak ethnic group, the Pomaks or the Bulgarian Muslims are Bulgarian by ethnicity, the fact that there are an awful lot of ignorant people in Bulgaria who do not distinguish between ethnicity (nationality) and nationality is a fact. And quite pathetic. An ethnos has nothing to do with citizenship and is not a kind of subdivision of citizens, an ethnos is a collection of individuals with a common origin, culture and traditions, and language, but there are also parts of an ethnic group that have lost their language over time but preserved their connection with the ethnic group to which they belong - for reference, the Bulgarian Gagauz, or the Greek Urums from the Azov region, who speak Crimean Tatar, etc. religion has nothing to do with ethnicity, the fact that someone is a Muslim does not necessarily mean that he is a Turk. Another issue is that in Turkey they are most brazenly trying to suggest that every Muslim is a Turk, in Turkey itself there are huge ethnic minorities - besides the Kurds, also Circassians, Bosniaks, Bulgarian Muslims, etc. And reading the comments here, I am convinced how pathetic we are as a nation and it is no coincidence that there are a lot of misguided individuals who, precisely because they are historically illiterate and do not distinguish between ethnicity and citizenship, invent that they have foreign veins.
17, why should there be no Pomak ethnic group? Many Pomaks incl. and I define myself as a separate ethnic group. What exactly is the criterion for a separate ethnic group? If it is a question of self-determination, then definitely the Pomaks or at least a large part of them should be a separate ethnic group. If it is a question of genetics, then genetics is a spectrum and there is no exact limit when you go to another ethnic group. If we are talking about the Bulgarians from western Bulgaria are not quite identical with Bulgarians in other parts of Bulgaria. Does this mean that they are different ethnic groups? The Pomaks are not hired where exactly in the spectrum of genetics are among all Bulgarians. Whether they are between them, or they are at the end, or a little further is the least controversial and biblical narrow-minded to cross them out lightly as a separate ethnic group. As for Turkey, there is the term Ottoman (Ottoman) and includes all ethnic groups in Turkey, as well as the remains in neighboring countries of settlers from the former Ottoman Empire such as the Bulgarian Turks. Otherwise, a Turk is understood to mean the Turkish ethnic group, not Kurds, not Zazi, not Lazi, not Circassians, but exactly ethnic Turks.
Until 18. We Pomaks from the Lovech region are Bulgarians and do not consider ourselves a separate ethnic group. Most of us kept our Bulgarian names and married Bulgarian Christians.
My congratulations, 19, everyone is free, but what about most of the Rhodope Pomaks? If you tell my grandmother that she is Bulgarian, she will eat you with the rags. The Lovech Pomaks are simply smaller and less compact, which determines their cultural assimilation. It is normal if you put 5 pomaks among 150 Bulgarians, over time to begin to assimilate, especially since purely statistically more likely to marry Bulgarians and over time to assimilate genetically. However, the Rhodopes are another beer.
Were you a separate ethnic group, being an ethnic group, what language do you speak, Pomaks? Armenians speak Armenian, Turks speak Turkish, Jews, gypsies have a language, what is yours? Someone doesn't know a gram of Turkish, but he thinks that when his name is Ahmed and he is cut, he is already a Turk. It is no coincidence that the MRF has been brainwashing them for 40 years and running them like puppets.
Christians do not have the right to marry non-Christians.
Number 18 I am number 17. There is no Pomak ethnic group, just as there is no Bosniak ethnic group, these are de facto Serb Muslims, etc. Albanians, being Muslims and Christians, have you heard of a Muslim defining himself as something other than an Albanian? Unfortunately, among some of the Bulgarian Muslims in the Rhodopes, Turkish propaganda has borne fruit and some of them consider themselves to be a fictional Pomak ethnic group or Turks. As ridiculous I would define the claims of some "understanders" that the Pomaks are in practice a separate ethnic group from the Bulgarian, nothing that they speak Bulgarian. I would tell them the following. Unlike religion, nationality cannot be made dependent on personal understandings and preferences. Because the nation is an objective, biological and cultural-historical community. Just as children cannot choose their parents, nor can they or their parents choose their ancestral roots, their ethnic origin and affiliation. So they are Bulgarians, not Turks or Muslims, whether someone likes it or not.
From the author: The boy in question is from the town of Sarnitsa in the Pazardzhik region. As far as I understand, there are differences between the Pomaks in different parts of Bulgaria. The boy is very polite and tolerant of all his relatives and acquaintances. I read a lot of opinions and stories that the Pomaks cheated, thought only of themselves and were not interested in the rights and traditions of other ethnic groups. I personally am far from that opinion. I had Pomak classmates and I can say that they behaved far better than the other Bulgarians in my class. They were also more educated and earned higher grades in Bulgarian grammar and literature. That's why I think we need to stop being so hostile to each other, accepting ourselves and being united. Sorry for the controversy that arose in the comments. I just wanted to find out a little more and see if I had a real chance of being with the boy I loved. I have nothing against anyone and I would be ready to accept all his traditions if necessary. Thanks to everyone who took the time to write a comment on the topic :)
It is not the problem of who is what, but that the Bulgarian society has a lot of prejudices and labels. This is who you are.
Everyone has the right to self-determine what ethnicity he is. As what do you decide for others what ethnicity they are? I don't know what time it is for you to make Pomaks, Bulgarian Turks and Macedonian Bulgarians, since they themselves do not feel like that. How do you imagine someone being forced to feel something they don't think they do? I can't feel pomak until 40 and after 40 I start to feel Bulgarian by ethnicity, because someone in the shares wrote me an edifying comment. You will even turn me against myself rather than feel like a Bulgarian. And what hinders these people if they do not identify as Bulgarians? Hey, that's just not clear to me. In each such topic, various similar comments begin. Why? And the topic is not even about whether the Pomaks are an ethnic group. I don't understand what your problem is if someone doesn't identify as a Bulgarian, since this is his personal problem. Each topic proclaims how everyone cheating, sleeping with older people, etc. for his personal problem and no one has the right to judge, but you cannot define yourself as an ethnic group. Because several users of share.net will wave a finger and we must make a good impression and not contradict them. Amy won't. Have an opinion, but telling me that I'm someone I don't feel like can't happen. If a Pomak defines himself as a Bulgarian, it is his job, but I am not and I will not become one. PS: Do you realize that in the late 70's before the revival process there was one for Pomaks and many of them were killed by the communist regime because they refused and preferred to die? This will be because they feel like Bulgarians, right? What do you think of this job? Each topic proclaims how everyone cheating, sleeping with older people, etc. for his personal problem and no one has the right to judge, but you cannot define yourself as an ethnic group. Because several users of share.net will wave a finger and we must make a good impression and not contradict them. Amy won't. Have an opinion, but telling me that I'm someone I don't feel like can't happen. If a Pomak defines himself as a Bulgarian, it is his job, but I am not and I will not become one. PS: Do you realize that in the late 70's before the revival process there was one for Pomaks and many of them were killed by the communist regime because they refused and preferred to die? This will be because they feel like Bulgarians, right? What do you think of this job? Each topic proclaims how everyone cheating, sleeping with older people, etc. for his personal problem and no one has the right to judge, but you can't define yourself as an ethnic group. Because several users of share.net will wave a finger and we must make a good impression and not contradict them. Amy won't. Have an opinion, but telling me that I'm someone I don't feel like can't happen. If a Pomak defines himself as a Bulgarian, it is his job, but I am not and I will not become one. PS: Do you realize that in the late 70's before the revival process there was one for Pomaks and many of them were killed by the communist regime because they refused and preferred to die? This will be because they feel like Bulgarians, right? What do you think of this job? for his personal problem and no one has the right to judge, but you can't define yourself as an ethnic group. Because several users of share.net will wave a finger and we must make a good impression and not contradict them. Amy won't. Have an opinion, but telling me that I'm someone I don't feel like can't happen. If a Pomak defines himself as a Bulgarian, it is his job, but I am not and I will not become one. PS: Do you realize that in the late 70's before the revival process there was one for Pomaks and many of them were killed by the communist regime because they refused and preferred to die? This will be because they feel like Bulgarians, right? What do you think of this job? for his personal problem and no one has the right to judge, but you cannot define yourself as an ethnic group. Because several users of share.net will wave a finger and we must make a good impression and not contradict them. Amy won't. Have an opinion, but telling me that I'm someone I don't feel like can't happen. If a Pomak defines himself as a Bulgarian, it is his job, but I am not and I will not become one. PS: Do you realize that in the late 70's before the revival process there was one for Pomaks and many of them were killed by the communist regime because they refused and preferred to die? This will be because they feel like Bulgarians, right? What do you think of this job? net will wave a finger and we must make a good impression and not contradict them. Amy won't. Have an opinion, but telling me that I'm someone I don't feel like can't happen. If a Pomak defines himself as a Bulgarian, it is his job, but I am not and I will not become one. PS: Do you realize that in the late 70's before the revival process there was one for Pomaks and many of them were killed by the communist regime because they refused and preferred to die? This will be because they feel like Bulgarians, right? What do you think of this job? net will wave a finger and we must make a good impression and not contradict them. Amy won't. Have an opinion, but telling me that I'm someone I don't feel like can't happen. If a Pomak defines himself as a Bulgarian, it is his job, but I am not and I will not become one. PS: Do you realize that in the late 70's before the revival process there was one for Pomaks and many of them were killed by the communist regime because they refused and preferred to die? This will be because they feel like Bulgarians, right? What do you think of this job? that in the late 1970s before the revival process there was one for Pomaks and many of them were killed by the communist regime because they refused and preferred to die? This will be because they feel like Bulgarians, right? What do you think of this job? that in the late 1970s before the revival process there was one for Pomaks and many of them were killed by the communist regime because they refused and preferred to die? This will be because they feel like Bulgarians, right? What do you think of this job?
If he doesn't want you, it's not because of religion. If he wants you, it's not because of religion.
Number 20, that's right, the Turkish-Islamist assimilation in those who are another beer (Rhodope-apostates) is visible. But thank God there are such proud and intelligent enough Bulgarians as number 19, who should be at the head of every Rhodope town one day, but this will happen if we become truly independent again and the neoliberal pedals are sent where they belong.
Yes number 28, I completely agree with you that the Pomaks are not Bulgarians at all, because while you were dying during the revival process, the ancestors of the Bulgarians died during the Ottoman slavery, refusing to accept the Muslim faith. And you Pomaks have accepted it voluntarily and in this sense you are apostates from everything Christian and Bulgarian. Do you give, do you give Balkanji Yovo, beautiful Yana of the Turkish faith? Sea, voivode, I give my head, I do not give Yana to the Turkish faith! Both his hands were cut off, so they ask him again and ask him: - Do you give, do you give Balkanji Yovo, beautiful Yana of the Turkish faith? - Sea, Duke, I give my head, I do not give Yana to the Turkish faith! They cut off both of his legs, so they ask him again and ask him: - Do you give, do you give Balkanji Yovo, beautiful Yana of Turkish faith? - Sea, Duke, I give my head, I do not give Yana to the Turkish faith!
28, yes everyone has the right to self-determination, but they base this on ignorance and manipulation. We don't make anyone, there are historical facts!
The Pomaks are the purest Bulgarians because they married each other. Religion should not be an obstacle - his ancestors themselves abandoned it in Turkish times ... They did not change Christianity and converted to Islam in order to save their lives ...
21, by your logic some Belgians and Swiss are French because they speak French. 35, right there is the problem that for the Pomaks the historical facts are quite scarce and unproven and largely the fruit of political propaganda. That is why these controversies are. If there were real proven facts, these disputes would not take place. 34, that the Pomaks were once Bulgarians or Christians and then converted to Islam is only a theory that has not yet been proven. When historians prove any specific facts, then let's argue. Otherwise we are arguing about some supposed things, which is pointless. They have not yet proved for the Bulgarians what they are and there are all sorts of theories, you have started arguing about the Pomaks, who are not known at all.
Just one question - do I bother anyone if I'm pomak? Assuming that I am genetically Bulgarian and my brain has been brainwashed, does that bother anyone that you have rushed so hard to convince me how pure a Bulgarian I am?
38. You interfere with the fact that you are another sheep crooked from the flock. The more divided we are, the easier it is for us to be governed. If you were born here, if you live here and use the same goods as me and the others in this country, then you are a Bulgarian. Otherwise, everyone has different roots. You also interfere with yourself because you feel different, without a sense of belonging to your people and your country!
Up to 37. So how can there be no evidence. Read the Ottoman registers, translated into Bulgarian. They concern the whole Rhodope region, Aegean Thrace, Thessaloniki and Serskis, Nevrokop Nahia, etc. Until the end of the 16th century, your ancestors had Bulgarian names and Christians, then gradually Islamization began, regardless of whether it was voluntary or forced. There is no place in the Rhodopes where an ancient or medieval church was not discovered before the arrival of the Ottomans. To claim that you were a Muslim before the Ottoman conquest is frivolous. Take an interest in your hometown and read the Ottoman registers, e.g. in Turkish sources on Bulgarian history or Rhodope collection.
to 39 Why am I separated? Well, because since my childhood I have been ridiculed by Bulgarians because of my origin. If someone has been making fun of you since you were a child about your origins, I doubt you'll want to be "united" with him. It's easy to bark on the forums about how deluded I am, but if you go through what I did, then judge me how "separated" I am. On someone else's back and 100 sticks are few, right? Up to 40 Among the Pomaks there are Christians in the Rhodopes from time immemorial and it is normal to have churches. But what does this actually prove? Even if we assume that they were once Christians, which I admit, this does not mean that they were ethnic Bulgarians. Do you differentiate between ethnicity and religion?
There are no pure nations in the Balkans, we are all involved. It is a shame for small nations - Bulgarians, Pomaks, Macedonians, Serbs, to quarrel instead of shaking hands and living together. What do you have to share? You speak the same language and say you have nothing to do with each other. Idiots! Dumb Balkan gang, that's why you will be poor and unhappy, because you are divided and complex.
Up to 42 From people like you, we mostly share, as you say, to everyone that they were bastards and idiots, where you said that it almost didn't matter what your country is, who you are and what language you speak. This "riding" is mainly on the forums. So far. I have not seen a Bulgarian, a Pomak, a Macedonian or a Serb fight on the ground, because they have argued over whose nation is the greatest. And so far, I have not seen a Bulgarian who says that he has nothing to do with Macedonians ... honestly! What fantasy do you live in?
In absolutely no way you help the author by arguing who was what and what she should have thought. You have turned the topic into a place where you can kill your complexes and just burden the girl instead of explaining with 2 simple words what you think about her problem! She obviously doesn't care who she is when she likes the boy. Stop!
It depends mostly on the boy and the environment in which he grew up. The Pomaks are quite bad, because neither the Bulgarians are Bulgarians, nor the Turks - Turks. You need more time to assess what it is about and most of all you need to see his family. Not once. In general, it is not true at all how religion did not matter. There is a big one, especially when it comes to Islam. I live in a mixed area, Turks and Bulgarians, but there are several villages with Pomaks. The Pomaks are less well received by the Turks and even by the Bulgarians. I worked in a school in a village with one hundred percent Turkish population, I know them well. No matter how well you get along with them, no matter how close they are to you, they don't forget who they are. Otherwise, on the surface, everything is ok. In general, the Pomaks, where there are compact tables, as in the Rhodopes and Blagoevgrad, they marry each other and are really another beer in these places. For me, such connections are problematic and their development over time is the same. Don't push yourself.
Everything is in the documents. One only has to have the desire to see and look. Since you cannot survive your childhood insult, you will still be susceptible to any manipulation. And let's stop the argument. The Rhodopes is a Bulgarian fortress and will remain so.
47, is not a manipulation, above I have given a link to the research of the BULGARIAN Institute of Anthropology. And what do you offer? To love people who have mocked me all my life for not "manipulating" me. Would you love the Turks if they called you "dirty gyaur" all their lives? Put yourself in my place.
№ 48 - you hate the Bulgarians for making fun of you, but even for the real Turks you are a gyaur. And you consider yourself something very special, part of some fictional Pomak ethnic group. That by the same logic we should declare the Shopski ethnos, the Dobrudzha ethnos, the Kapansi ethnos, the Graovo ethnos, let me stop, that we have become many ethnic groups for this territory. And who is determined for what is an even more murky job. I may want to define myself as a Japanese, it's okay that I don't know a buckle of Japanese, but it won't pull my eyes and make sushi :)))
49, what does it matter to the Turks what I am? If I am a gyaur for them, should I love Bulgarians and swallow insults for decades? Graots, ants don't interest me. I don't know what they have in common in this case. In this case, the hatred started from you, the Bulgarians. I didn't feel bad for anyone at first, but you made me angry with your attitude. As you have no arguments, he started interfering with Turks and Shopi. And why don't you comment on YOUR attitude towards minorities? Or you will come up with the "argument" "if you don't like it, march from Bulgaria". Let us not be separated. Well, stop having such an attitude towards minorities and you will not have disunity. But here - instead of putting yourself in my place, you go to interfere with Turks, Murks. The Turks are Turks. I have not seen any bad attitude from them, unlike the Bulgarians. We were not an ethnic group. Well, here are your documents and YOUR institute that we are an ethnic group. But he didn't get rid of you and started Turks, murks. You will insult her, and I will unite with you. That from what toil? When you unite with the Turks, what they call dirty gyaur, I will unite with you. But you don't see it and you don't care, you care that some Pomak has "denied" you. How can I deny something I have never had anything to do with? Can you deny the Chinese? You hate yourself and divide yourself into men-women, emigrants-non-emigrants, province-Sofia, and you want the Pomaks to love you and unite with you. Let's fix your relationship first with each other, then with the minorities, and then ask for treatment. and I will unite with you. That from what toil? When you unite with the Turks, what they call dirty gyaur, I will unite with you. But you don't see it and you don't care, you care that some Pomak has "denied" you. How can I deny something I have never had anything to do with? Can you deny the Chinese? You hate yourself and divide yourself into men-women, emigrants-non-emigrants, province-Sofia, and you want the Pomaks to love you and unite with you. Let's fix your relationship first with each other, then with the minorities, and then ask for treatment. and I will unite with you. That from what toil? When you unite with the Turks, what they call dirty gyaur, I will unite with you. But you don't see it and you don't care, you care that some Pomak has "denied" you. How can I deny something I have never had anything to do with? Can you deny the Chinese? You hate yourself and divide yourself into men-women, emigrants-non-emigrants, province-Sofia, and you want the Pomaks to love you and unite with you. Let's fix your relationship first with each other, then with the minorities, and then ask for treatment. How can I deny something I have never had anything to do with? Can you deny the Chinese? You hate yourself and divide yourself into men-women, emigrants-non-emigrants, province-Sofia, and you want the Pomaks to love you and unite with you. Let's fix your relationship first with each other, then with the minorities, and then ask for treatment. How can I deny something I have never had anything to do with? Can you deny the Chinese? You hate yourself and divide yourself into men-women, emigrants-non-emigrants, province-Sofia, and you want the Pomaks to love you and unite with you. Let's fix your relationship first with each other, then with the minorities, and then ask for treatment.
50, If you are so sick of being a Bulgarian and do not tolerate Bulgarians, why don't you throw away your Bulgarian passport and become a citizen of any other country?
51 because my business and family are here. Other matters? So you will not admit that the malice came from you, but you will gladly ask me what attitude the Turks had towards me and why I am in Bulgaria. Only a gossip can be interested in why ajeba someone who doesn't even know was in Bulgaria, as if he was entering his job and someone was obliged to give him an explanation. What else are you interested in from my personal affairs?
50, come to Deliormana or somewhere around Kardzhali, where there are compact masses of Turkish population, live there and write again. You have not seen bad treatment from Turks, because where you are, they are not a compact table. True, the comments go in another direction, but she is not superfluous to the author, because only by knowing enough about the Pomaks can she find out why and how. №46
53, ironically, I live right in Deliorman at the moment. Your attempt to demonize the Turks hit a rock again. No, they are much more worthy people than you. By the way, it was in Deliorman that I met the only tolerant Bulgarians, for which I took my hat off to them. And why do you avoid the topic of your attitude towards minorities? Just because they instill hatred in history textbooks from a young age doesn't mean they're bad people. And again I ask - why if the Turks were so bad, it belittles the fact that you behave badly with the Pomaks. Come on, not all, but some of you. For once, won't you have the courage to admit that hatred comes from you? Why do even you hate each other? Doesn't it occur to you so much that hatred breeds more hatred?
The Bulgarian so-called Turks I know are modest, hardworking and very cool people. And more blond than us :-))). I do not know at all why we should be divided by ethnicity and not into good and bad.
55, when they started attacking me, because I am a Pomak, I explained to the Bulgarians that we are one people, no matter who is defined, that we should be united, etc. They then laughed at me sarcastically, "Was it you, Pomak Lower, will you explain it to us?" At the beginning of the harassment, I endured in the hope that they would become human, that they would come to their senses. I endured for a while and at one point I shouted to myself "and what will happen if I convince them" and "what is it for me to make friends with such sludge". Until then, God forbid, I had absolutely no bad attitude towards Bulgarians and I did not foresee them with anything. I said to myself, "OK, there may be exceptions, I'm not going to put everyone under a common denominator." I went to study at a university, where I also encountered many times hints at how dirty we Muslims were, how backward the Pomaks were, apostates. I was patient, I was patient, in the end I shouted "what not you". In me, the Bulgarian will always be associated with malice, hatred, insult. Yes, I have Bulgarian friends and they are one of the few exceptions, but I will never forget the insult and love Bulgarians in general. I'm sorry, but only someone in my opinion would love them. It happened that there was physical violence 1-2 times as a child, because I had decided not to be patient and to oppose. Of course, there were several against me. And I ask you, number 55, how can I overcome the insult and love this tribe? How can I convince them that we are one nation, since they hate themselves, let alone love a pomak? Who will give me back the days when I came home from school with a roar as a child, huh? Who? But this will not cause you regret, because I am a Pomak, and you will still ask me if the Turks did not treat me even worse. Well no, they don't,
"Your mother is Gyaur" ... Why don't I send the vomit to the prosecutor's office, eh? Stop foaming! Moderator, download the topic (I copied it to know), I do not intend to tolerate this rabid dog anymore.