Friends I want to share a strange story and if anyone can answer me I will be happy. So I'm 22 years old, 3 days ago I was walking through the streets of Plovdiv and I was stopped by two young men who introduced themselves. One was called George and the other Eric told me they were from the United States and they wanted to ask me a few questions, they spoke in Bulgarian, but from the accent and the look on their faces it was obvious that they were Americans. I agreed. One asks me if I believe in Jesus and what is the purpose of my life, I answered their questions briefly. And the other gave me a book called "The Book of Muron" And then one took out a notebook and wrote down my cell phone number. At home I read some of the book and it talks about the bible and jesus. And I wonder if these people aren't from some American sect who are brainwashing people to use them in terrorist acts The next day, one of them called me on the phone and told me that he wanted to meet me next week, gave me the address of a church and invited me on Wednesday. What should I do to go? Has anyone encountered such people? What is their purpose? Why would they come here from the USA and learn Bulgarian in writing and spoken?
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Don't go there! And why did you give the phone?
Were you crazy to deal with the fact that you even gave the fuel and lubricants ... They obviously felt that you were easy prey ... Nothing, but do NOT deal with these anymore ... In what century do you live? ?
Until the attacks hardly: D and for the first time you encounter Mormons in Plovdiv? and I am from pld but I am younger and at least 2-3 times they stopped me ... I would still like to come to such a church ...
Don't go ... These are sectarians. Then they will ask you to donate all the property to the "church" and they will brainwash you, and in the end you will live with the other balamurniks in the monasteries ... Here is an example ... I forgot which famous person he belonged to, but still Well ... His child had gotten sick, but he was in a sect and they told him to stop the drugs, that they only interfered and a month later the child died ... So I tell you, you better not get involved with these sects: ) And I'm just telling you that you made a HUGE mistake by giving the number ...
Now - they can't force you to do anything, but that doesn't stop them from constantly insisting on various things, as they see that you give in ... In the end you will really end up with a "brainwashed", but not because someone is to blame for this, and because you have given in ... These people come here to gather a "membership table", ie followers who through "donations" to finance their business scheme called "church". They did it 20-22-3 years ago and really stocked a large part of the population, because then there was a huge spiritual vacuum ... The more aware of the "stocked", however, separated and made their own, Bulgarian church similar to the Western ones. . Accordingly, they "thanked them for the ideas and missionary work" and at the same time cut them off financially: ) So if you have an irresistible desire to participate in such structures, and this satisfies some of your inner spiritual needs, I can direct you to our own, native formations (by the way, they are not bad at all - the participants in them live very cohesively and socially with their families ... And the fact that they are gargling with the Bible - can be easily experienced in case a person is not very religious ...) At least you will know that with the "donations" you finance Bulgarian and not more bad pastors and churches, not strangers. (And don't listen to them, that we are all "brothers" - none of them release the bone voluntarily and in a Christian way ...). Ray they are not bad at all - the participants in them live very cohesively and socially with their families ... And the fact that they gargle with the Bible - can be easily experienced in case a person is not very religious ...) At least you will know that with your "donations" you finance Bulgarian and no worse pastors and churches, not foreign ones. (And don't listen to them, that we are all "brothers" - none of them release the bone voluntarily and in a Christian way ...). Ray they are not bad at all - the participants in them live very cohesively and socially with their families ... And the fact that they gargle with the Bible - can be easily experienced in case a person is not very religious ...) At least you will know that with your "donations" you finance Bulgarian and no worse pastors and churches, not foreign ones. (And don't listen to them, that we are all "brothers" - none of them release the bone voluntarily and in a Christian way ...). Ray
Haven't you heard that a fake phone is given in such cases? Learned from women dude, they give fake numbers to dudes they don't like.
Their goal is to brainwash you and take your property. But what's worse is that they take your soul. Run from such. What kind of church can a sect have? If you want help from Jesus, turn to our Orthodox churches. Next time, don't talk to them at all, don't pick up the phone because you're badly spelled. in.
These are the followers of Mormon, which is a sect and has nothing to do with the true values of Christ. Mormons are polygamous and teach things as opposed to true Christianity. A man lives and has intercourse with countless women and makes closed societies in which who is who to whom, it is not known, based on indiscriminate sexual relations. This is not Christ's. Christ is the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE! Christ means mercy, love for all people, means a spiritual way of life (the Spirit is from God), and God (Christ) commands us to live by the Spirit not by the flesh, because the flesh is doomed and "it" is sinful (in meaning doomed, created for temporary life). Christ teaches us to gather values and riches in the spiritual life in order to live forever, for after the flesh (which dies) God resurrects every man who has received His Spirit (and will give him whatever body the Father desires) so that man may live forever and be a PART OF GOD. Now in this form we humans, as flesh, are not part of God, but if we carry the Spirit of love within us (which is described as the "inner man") and love all of God's creatures, we become perfect as the Father himself. life, the rest is vanity.
Yes, these are the Mormons in Plovdiv. My mother had stopped like that and she gave them a fake number. :) If they call you, don't pick them up and ignore them.
In the center of Varna, near the fountains, last year, a boy stopped me. Dressed in a white shirt and black pants, with blond hair. I don't remember his name, but he wasn't Bulgarian. He spoke with an American accent. I think his name was David, but I'm not sure. Sounds familiar to me from somewhere. He stopped other people besides me, and there were other people around dressed in white. He asked me if I was a believer, who Jesus Christ was, what he did. All this in Bulgarian, and then he asked me if I spoke English, about which I lied and said "no". He showed me a black book with a cross and talked about a meeting to which he invited me. It just seemed suspicious to me and I tried to wean myself off the conversation. Not every day they stop with such questions. I am a believer myself. I soon saw the same boy again in the center of Varna. Are they really sectarians?
Oh, my God! How are you going to walk, man?
And here in Sofia, those with white shirts and pants go around and do something like a quick test / interview. I answered them, but I told them that I was an Orthodox Christian and I didn't care, and I said goodbye to them and that's it. Don't deal with these sects at all.
There is no danger of you making the Mormons a terrorist. Because: 1. They need for the number to beat in the chest how much they have converted. 2. They need you for tithing, which is mandatory for Mormons who are committed to the faith. Even if they needed terrorists, with the money raised from the tithe, they could just hire them. You are more useful to them alive and hard working! :) 3. They also need your children to turn them into "volunteer missionaries" when they turn 19. These are 18-24 months of their lives for a big, round nothing. Their scheme to catch you is simple and as far as I can understand it is the same as the schemes of the evangelical churches that have emerged in Bulgaria in the last 20 years (I have attended evangelical "lectures" and "services", so I know what they are). - Expect to be regularly harassed on the phone and invited to various gatherings and Sunday services. - If you go to several such gatherings, you will suddenly find yourself with quite friendly and sociable "friends". Their goal is simple - to awaken the herd feeling in you: to give donations, because your "friends" give you there and you are uncomfortable to be the only one who does not give, to stock up on acquaintances from other environments, because your "friends" in the church they do, etc. By the way, a Mormon missionary spoke to me too. How quickly he lost the desire to deal with me at all when I told him in my eyes that I was an atheist! Just forget that I exist - he turned his back on me and spoke to my company. :) Next time I will tell such geeks that I am a Satanist and I will ask them where I can get the sacred word of their sect, to print it out and burn it. :) As for jiesema ... you made a big mistake, my man! Giving a fake number is also not a job, because it will call complete strangers and harass them. The easiest way to get out is to ask them for their number with the "promise" that you will call them.
I would like to ask what should be said to these so-called sectarians when they ask you a question of any kind, so as not to be impudent? If, for example, they stop me and ask me what should I say? Do I have to say that I believe or that I do not believe in Jesus?
You don't have to answer them, mumble something there and leave.
Say you are an Orthodox Christian and you are not interested in their teachings.
Don't deal with any sects at all! They are frauds, they will take everything from you and ruin your life! You will waste all your youth because of them!
I go to church but I don't go to those. Go only to evangelicals, Adventists, Baptists and Pentecostals. These are all Christians. There are strong sects, but we are not all sectarians. The Lord Jesus Christ says: by their fruits you will know them. In the evangelical churches we are taught not to steal, not to envy, to forgive, to honor relatives, to keep the marriage clean without infidelity, to help the poor to love and those who irritate you not to be materialistic. Is all this bad? Sects are easily recognizable if they worship anyone other than the Lord Jesus. They are sectarians. The true church says to treat people the way you want them to treat you.
Cut them immediately and do not meet with them. Have you not heard how many people have blackened and destroyed these sects. These are very well trained brainwashers. In no time they will wrap your head and you will be under their control. Jesus Christ Himself said, "Beware of false prophets." All sects use the Bible, but many of the things in it are interpreted differently in a degenerate way, in order to confuse and hurt you, and their ultimate goal is to destroy you - and you and the people around you. Remember that sects were created by the Devil for this very purpose. It's the same with the nurses - if you go to them, in the end you won't see anything good. This also applies to UIDJA BOARDS. People take care of yourself and your children! Do not deal with such things and be on the alert! I had a friend who got involved with a sect. Gradually he closed in on himself and distanced himself from his relatives and friends. He gradually became depressed and eventually committed suicide. Don't make the same mistake.
And these are going to be Mormons. No, they're not terrorists, don't worry, but they can really be quite annoying when they start stocking you with their nonsense. They've been around for years, I haven't heard of them hurting anyone.
A sect gave me a flash mob show after a girl invited me to the Internet. Then he offered me some strange books, but he didn't want to meet again. I had to wonder.
A lot of people here are not aware of things. Those who stopped you are Mormons, and the book is called the Book of Mormon. In principle, all currents of Christianity can be considered as a kind of "sect", but from "sect" to "sect" there is a big difference. The Catholic "sect", for example, has more than a billion followers. The current of Christianity that Mormons follow is based in the United States and is based on the Bible, but with their addition, at the end of his stay on Earth, Christ allegedly went to North America and left some artifacts there that Mormon later found. In general, it looks a bit strange and funny. It beats the American mania for greatness a little. Mormons are not some sect of lunatics who will take your money. Mitt Romney, for example, is a Mormon. He was the Republican candidate for president of the Republican Party in the 2012 election and then lost to Obama by 51% to 47%. By the way, his father was also a presidential candidate and lost to Nixon in '68. Statistically, Mormons are more religious than other Americans, have more children, and divorces are much rarer. You can see them as a kind of people of the old days, people with contemporary values, where family comes first. In general, they are also quite educated compared to other Americans and are people you can trust - something I can't say about most other Americans. Their church is officially registered in Bulgaria, it is not like those suspicious sects from the 90s, they will not take your property and ruin you or anything like that. Don't panic about nonsense, that they called you on the phone and they invited sermons and the like. These are missionaries and this is their job. If you want, you can go, they won't do anything to you. However, I would not go to their current of Christianity. There are several important reasons: 1) Monogamy is long gone. It was banned in the 19th century. It's a little disappointing, but there's no other way. Otherwise, they would not be able to be legalized even in the United States. 2) Do not drink alcohol. Although I don't drink much, as a Bulgarian I don't want to live without alcohol at all. You probably do too. 3) They are quite conservative, especially sexually. As far as I know, oral sex is forbidden with them. Mormons are also a relatively closed community, marrying each other mainly. If you become one of them, most likely your future wife will also be a Mormon. This means, that you won't see squirrels for the rest of your life, and sex will probably only be in the missionary position. 4) Their additions to the Bible seem a little ridiculous to me. 5) Young people (mainly boys) are sent on missions to different countries for a year or two. Romney, for example, was a missionary in France. Their church bears the basic expenses, but it is a misery and a waste of time unless you are a believer. In general, do not classify them as any psychopaths and sectarians. They won't do anything to you, but I don't think it's for you. Too many prohibitions and restrictions for a modern young man. Read more about them and you will see that most of the comments here are not adequate. There is a lot of relatively objective information on the Internet, especially in English. 4) Their additions to the Bible seem a little ridiculous to me. 5) Young people (mainly boys) are sent on missions to different countries for a year or two. Romney, for example, was a missionary in France. Their church bears the basic expenses, but it is a misery and a waste of time unless you are a believer. In general, do not classify them as any psychopaths and sectarians. They won't do anything to you, but I don't think it's for you. Too many prohibitions and restrictions for a modern young man. Read more about them and you will see that most of the comments here are not adequate. There is a lot of relatively objective information on the Internet, especially in English. 4) Their additions to the Bible seem a little ridiculous to me. 5) Young people (mainly boys) are sent on missions to different countries for a year or two. Romney, for example, was a missionary in France. Their church bears the basic expenses, but it is a misery and a waste of time unless you are a believer. In general, do not classify them as any psychopaths and sectarians. They won't do anything to you, but I don't think it's for you. Too many prohibitions and restrictions for a modern young man. Read more about them and you will see that most of the comments here are not adequate. There is a lot of relatively objective information on the Internet, especially in English. unless you are a believer. In general, do not classify them as any psychopaths and sectarians. They won't do anything to you, but I don't think it's for you. Too many prohibitions and restrictions for a modern young man. Read more about them and you will see that most of the comments here are not adequate. There is a lot of relatively objective information on the Internet, especially in English. unless you are a believer. In general, do not classify them as any psychopaths and sectarians. They won't do anything to you, but I don't think it's for you. Too many prohibitions and restrictions for a modern young man. Read more about them and you will see that most of the comments here are not adequate. There is a lot of relatively objective information on the Internet, especially in English.
№20 sects hide behind the name of Jesus, but their true purposes are impure. In the Orthodox Christian Church we are also taught not to steal, not to envy, to forgive, to keep marriage clean and not to cheat, to help others, not to be materialistic and many others that sects will not teach you. Read the Ten Commandments and you will understand.
25, religious morality is always conditional. 1. In the Old Testament it says not to kill, in the New it says to love your enemy, but Christians go to war and kill, and it happened that Christians fought against Christians. In the New Testament, in the epistle of the Apostle Paul to the Romans, it is written that you must obey all authority, for there is no authority that is not from God. Very convenient - so if an authority, in the person of a government, decides to send its subjects to war, they have to kill ... how do you think that relates to "Don't kill". Religious morality is conditional. 2. Even in attempts where a different interpretation is impossible, such as loving your enemy - that is, you can't hurt someone you love - again, along with the whole context, things can turn around in the end, so when a country is at war the clergy (whether Catholics or Orthodox) baptize the army and military equipment. Hypocrisy in its purest form. 3. Religious people like to say that wars are inevitable, so we can't avoid them ... how convenient, again. The Bible talks about God's struggle with the devil, fallen angels, and so on. How can there be peace on earth if they fight in heaven? !! Your God must fix his buckets, because the consequence is the result of the cause, not the other way around. Religious people say that God loves people, but punishes them for their sins - with another earthquake, tsunami - and how many 10,000 there are, it's nothing. They are Catholics in Mexico, so ... if they were Orthodox it would not happen. 4. Orthodox capacities say that Catholics are the wrong side, but they themselves cannot do it, that if they had been born in a Catholic country, they would not have been Orthodox. Of course, a person's sense of significance will tell him, "Even if I had been born a Catholic, I would have found the way to the truth myself" - a truth that he now considers to be the result of the environment in which he lives. No, man, being born in Germany, you would be a wonderful Catholic, considering Catholicism to be the right country. And just as when Jesus asked them if they could drink from his cup, and they said they could, so now you would think that if you had not been born Orthodox, you would have reached Orthodoxy yourself ... 5. The dual morality in the bible - now the religious talk about innocence, about sex after marriage, but King Solomon had 1000 wives ... 6. Everything is a lie, opium for the masses. Did you know that the first Christians to Emperor Constantine, to the IV century, have refused to take part in hostilities and kill. After a clever move by Constantine, who baptized the whole army and turned pagans into Christians - and they were mercenaries and how you would baptize them, it was still up to them, as long as they were paid - those who were true believers and unwilling. to kill, left the army and were no longer called Christians. So far this duality has remained - do not kill, but under certain circumstances you can ... the absolute fact that religious morality always obeys the public. 6. Everything is a lie. The only thing that is true are the psychological models, which are several and universally valid, everything else is ridiculous, a lie, an object of interpretation, bordering on stupidity, nonsense and whatever else you want. 7. If a millionaire organizes a seminar attended by 1,000 people to learn how to get rich, but there is say that only a small percentage have the mental potential and capacity to become rich, do you know that everyone present will think that he is one of those 3%. It is very easy, if I am a priest, to suggest to you that by following the orders of our church and fighting against others, you will be one of the elect. 8. Before Christianity there were other religions, with other gods, and all believers in them believed that they were the right religions, just as now the religious considers theirs to be the only truth. Religion will always take one form or another, this is inevitable because of the human ego, which makes a person recognize himself in the positive characteristics. If I go to 5 people and tell them that I can guess for each one what his character is, I put them in a row, 5 meters apart, and I write them the same thing: - Hard to trust, but is an exceptional friend in need - Hates hypocrisy and always tells the truth in the eyes - Can love strongly, but not everyone is the right person for him - With a sharp mind and moderate sense of humor - Naturally intelligent ... everyone one will gasp, saying, "Yes, this is me," because people always recognize themselves with good qualities and never with negative ones. Now there are reality shows, viewers have an opinion about what a worthy player should be - that he should not be a hypocrite or a liar; that he must defend his opinion in a dispute; that he must behave well with others and not offend them, while at the same time, the "dear spectator" himself, commenting maliciously on one of the players in the game, is the opposite of what he wants to see in the players themselves - a kind condemns this in others, which is himself. People never see themselves, so what's different about religious ones. 9. If a mother's child becomes ill with cancer and dies, but before she dies she seeks help from God, through prayers, when she dies, the religious will say that it is a trial. If she survives, they will say that this is a grace and this mother will believe, but she will not see that behind her child, 10 other children have not fought cancer. 10. If there is a drought and a farmer prays, "God, please let it rain, otherwise there will be no harvest and we will die of starvation" ... doesn't God see and know everything, why should you pray to him? What does such a God say to himself: "Ah, it's good that he told me. I didn't know there was a drought, I'm just waiting for you to pray for me, and I'll think about whether it will rain!". - "God loves you" - they say, "but also punishes". 11. Religion is built in such a way that there is always an excuse for everything, attributing the merits to the positive, and blaming the sins of the people as the culprit for the negative. 12. Even in "Genesis" there are technical inconsistencies in the creation of the Earth, but we will not go into such details. Separate time and space and even what a religious would do in paradise forever: "On foot, let me tell you when I was young in the barracks, listen, listen ...", On foot: "How many times will you tell me, remember Kat. 'sharks, dey * a ". There will be nothing to do simply - "We will praise God day and night and glorify Him", um ok, try to fall on your knees for 20 minutes every day and pray, see how it is, and then think about eternity. and in the negative he blames, as the culprit, the sins of men. 12. Even in "Genesis" there are technical inconsistencies in the creation of the Earth, but we will not go into such details. Separate time and space and even what a religious would do in paradise forever: "On foot, let me tell you when I was young in the barracks, listen, listen ...", On foot: "How many times will you tell me, remember Kat. 'sharks, dey * a ". There will be nothing to do simply - "We will praise God day and night and glorify Him", um ok, try to fall on your knees for 20 minutes every day and pray, see how it is, and then think about eternity. and in the negative he blames, as the culprit, the sins of men. 12. Even in "Genesis" there are technical inconsistencies in the creation of the Earth, but we will not go into such details. Separate time and space and even what a religious would do in paradise forever: "On foot, let me tell you when I was young in the barracks, listen, listen ...", On foot: "How many times will you tell me, remember Kat. 'sharks, dey * a ". There will be nothing to do simply - "We will praise God day and night and glorify Him", um ok, try to fall on your knees for 20 minutes every day and pray, see how it is, and then think about eternity. Separate time and space and even what a religious would do in paradise forever: "On foot, let me tell you when I was young in the barracks, listen, listen ...", On foot: "How many times will you tell me, remember Kat. 'sharks, dey * a ". There will be nothing to do simply - "We will praise God day and night and glorify Him", um ok, try to fall on your knees for 20 minutes every day and pray, see how it is, and then think about eternity. Separate time and space and even what a religious would do in paradise forever: "On foot, let me tell you when I was young in the barracks, listen, listen ...", On foot: "How many times will you tell me, remember Kat. 'sharks, dey * a ". There will be nothing to do simply - "We will praise God day and night and glorify Him", um ok, try to fall on your knees for 20 minutes every day and pray, see how it is, and then think about eternity.
But. 26, do not interfere with religion with the "morality" of politics. Religion and faith are something very personal for each person. The problem with religion is that some people use it as a weapon to achieve their goals. They distort it and interpret it in a way that is convenient for them, with sects being a typical example.
27, like it or not, religion is always used by governments and rulers. The problem with religion, apart from the nonsense in it, is that it is subject to interpretation. Exactly when something can be interpreted in many ways, then there are disagreements - just look, you have: Lutherans, Catholics, Orthodox, Evangelicals, Baptists, Protestants and more ... because everyone interprets differently. If I send a chemical formula to five different countries, the chemists will read it the same way - there will be no contradictions and disagreements between them. This is the exact language. And the fact that religious morality always obeys the public is a fact. Do you think that if the people had obeyed the commandment "Thou shalt not kill" during the April Uprising, it would have been reached at all? !! But despite the order, the people wanted freedom. And here the preacher's job is to interpret and turn in that direction, which the masses want to reconcile with the Easter eggs in religion: "To love one's neighbor is to honor one's own people and the people of your faith" - that is, to kill a non-believer is not a problem. A free interpretation of religion would work, but what about "Love Your Enemy" - I have never read in history that an insurgent loves his enemy. - Again, if we accept that it must be interpreted literally and if the French literally followed religious morality: "Every soul should obey the supreme authorities, because there is no power that is not from God", then the French Revolution would not there is, and the won 8 hour working day would be a mirage. Religious morality always obeys public morality. The person doesn't have much choice during a war - at the front, if you don't go on the attack, you will be shot by yours, if you go on the attack or kill, or they will kill you. So you always break either "Love your neighbor" by killing the one who doesn't go on the attack, or "Don't kill" and "Love your enemy" ... No matter how you look at it, it turns out that in the best case life will go without religions, let everyone personally believe in nymphs, Santa Claus and so on.