I Proposed To Him, And He Abandoned Me

   You don't say how old you are. If he is young, do not expect miracles yet. And 2 years is not so much for a relationship. * Syndrome

   I know it's naughty to hear him, but he just doesn't want to marry you. The reasons may be 1000. Don't look for it. Step away. He may not have really felt ready and it may have been a little oppressive on your part. He may have been offended by his father's help - some people are more proud, especially men. You may have been more attached to him than he was to you. Tell me how old are you?

   1 is right. How old are you, for God's sake? "I give you freedom, if you decide to return it will be for life, if you do not return then this is the end. "I don't know, but I think when you give an ultimatum to someone, you have to think seriously. The man has made his choice, he is simply not ready. You pressed him hard, but I think you were lucky not to waste your time realizing that you just weren't the Woman in this man's life. When a man is in love, confident in his love and accepts you as truly unique, he does not run away like that. He seems to have used you, but you have crossed the line, you have become annoying and demanding, which has made you useless (for use), but rather an obstacle in his life. You deserve more. Forget about this man and live your life. Next time, look into the man's eyes and, if you don't see adoration and love in them, don't waste your time ... do not turn marriage, the desire for children, family, houses into a fixed idea, because in your environment people were married, live for yourself, not for others! Better a late wedding than an early divorce! Laura

   You know what - you're a blackmailer and the right man to dump you. And to tell me - either we are getting married or you have no place in my life, I will no longer sit with such a person. Tomorrow you will blackmail him for something else if you get married. You are a manipulative blackmailer who wants to become hers without caring about the person on the other side.

   E 4 is very much alive, the author only wants to develop their relationship. Why don't they understand each other, love each other, it's normal to go one step higher. Your author's mistake was that you did not comply and accepted his answer that now is not the time for marriage. Good luck and hope you come together. I think he will look for you, be patient do not look for him, let him worry and think that he has lost you

   Hello, I'm 27 and he's 32, he's not one of those people who would allow himself to use someone, unlike other men, he has a conscience, that's why I hold on to him, he's always been by my side in difficult moments, I think he wants to punish me and will come back if I don't look for him as he says 5, but he may not come back because he likes his mother's son a bit, and he doesn't want to live far from his mother for that. I hope he thinks again and comes back.

   And what if he comes back? You're 27, don't you have a job other than chasing some "mommy's son" (you said so yourself). I wouldn't waste my time if I were you, but I wouldn't be obsessed with marriage either. Life is in front of you, don't waste it with a person you consider a mother's son and to whom you could have given such an ultimatum. I don't think you love him very much, but you're used to him, and everyone has been married ... In general, only you know what you have to do with this man. One thing he seems to understand - he does not want to have anything to do with you.

   Laura is right, what are these ultimatums, is this how marriage is proposed? !! If you are told, or we are getting married, or you are packing, what will you think? Probably that the person sticks to one signature more than to you, and if you don't give him what he wants (marriage) you don't need him anymore? Emmy, that's exactly what you looked like. How can you say that you hold someone and love them, and at the same time lightly offer them to leave? And how do you want to marry a man, since you do not show an elementary understanding of his desires at the moment? Since he doesn't want it now, he doesn't want it - it can't always be yours. Tomorrow or the day after tomorrow for much more serious things you will have differences (children, house, where to spend money, etc.) if a marriage is an obstacle in your relationship, what will you do then? And if you always press him like that for how long you think, that it will last you? If I want to be with someone and I AM with him at the moment, I will be happy to have what I want, and marriage will be my last concern. Nothing, for the next time - to know. Kubrat

   Darling, take it and apologize for the ultimatum and everything will be fine .. enough with that pride :) Nenn

   I just wanted to clarify our relationship, every woman in love wants to get married for her favorite hour soon, so as not to confuse things later, if he has not decided by now what he wants will not decide in 10 years, and I have to stand and wait for his decision and suddenly turn 40 and only then realize that I was wasting my time with this man. But when I saw that I was losing him, I texted me that I was sorry, I asked him to forgive me, but there was no answer from him. It ruins me and I think about it all the time.

   And people, what are you attacking the author for! Since they love each other, why not get married, it's normal ... but men are cowards "Now is not the time for marriage ... and it's too early for me to have children" I kept hearing. Well, I think it's normal for two lovers to get married :) but mom's son is afraid that mom might run away and have nowhere to suckle .... pf 4 years I wasted my time with one, but I finally realized! The author left things as they are, don't look for him ... if he really loves you, he has nothing to be afraid of and will return, so marriage has not hung. I hope you get better

   Author, it is not true that every woman in love wants to bring in the man she loves in front of the altar, so as not to waste her time. The woman in love does not perceive the time with the beloved as lost, she prefers to be 40, unmarried and even without children, but with this man, instead of being with every X other man and celebrating weddings and baptisms. You have not met love, that's why your whims have taken over. The man is not such a mother's son as you describe him, because he reacts quite firmly, quite disciplined and MALE. Understand, for a man, the ultimatum is an ultimatum. You said one thing, now he's made his decision. Both to turn away and to shake, the man has obviously decided to look for the true, UNCONDITIONAL (comes from unconditionally) love. PP don't waste your time, you'll be 40 and unmarried (horror), but focus on finding another male, to play your whistle. This one has apparently finally gotten out of your snare. It is certain, absolutely certain, that you will soon be celebrating your long-awaited wedding. There is also a theme for wedding dresses here, look for one - Mr. X is waiting for you at the altar - according to the theory of 11 he will love you very much and "take you", try not to become another wife with a lover, however, in a hurry to put on the dream dress, with two children and cellulite ... without any right to choose, and love - then love becomes your last problem, and the wedding photos will long ago be moldy in some closet.

   You made a classic mistake ... you had to make him offer it to you. A few tactics and tricks ... Don't look for him now, because you will only make him run away from you more. If he doesn't look for you, then he's not your man. It sucks ... I know and I understand you, read the book "Love is a Deal" and success ...

   Because you are annoying - of course he does not want to marry you - this is an excuse for business and your behavior has given him a great opportunity to dump you. This is felt - you do not need any conversations or ultimatums, nor is this serious with the house, if he wants you for life. If, as a woman, you have not felt it, be careful in the future. A commentator№ 11 - who told you they were "in love"? Yes, the author is definitely in love and rightly wants to develop the relationship. But this happens naturally, not with thought. It's either in her boyfriend's heart or it's not. It's pointless to force things, because a marriage that starts this way (if it exists at all, which I doubt) has no future. By the way, I may sound like a man to you, but I am a woman with experience in this direction.

   And what if you marry him ... what security does that give you? The answer is clear! So you achieve nothing with such ultimatums ... when a man feels pressured, he always runs away. Leave him and if he decides, he will return to you, if he is not healthy, he will be overcome! Success! :) Doriana

   Author, with SMS it does not work. Is that how much love costs you - one sms. Call, talk. I think you caught his eye a little. It seems desperate to want a marriage at any cost. As they wrote to you above - not every woman in love wants marriage. There is time for everything. It's best to see each other face to face and apologize for pressuring him like that.

   One piece of advice - the sooner you realize that this man does not want to bond with you in this way, the better. Drop heavy silly clichés "as soon as a man presses him-runs away" blah-blah. A MAN does not run away, he stands up and says - I'm not ready, I have other plans, etc., etc. If in this situation after 2 years of relationship and previous conversations about marriage and serious things act this way, present you're in another serious life situation. The difference is that then you may not have a choice ... Sorry, but at 32, with business and plans for a good life, I don't know what his problem is, but he should know what he wants from the woman next to him, not disappear. like an invisible hat ... Good luck!

   I agree with Laura, Kubrat and number 4. And to write me such a nice text message and I will be through nine mountains in the tenth, and to be honest, I do not know what normal person will betray lifelong slavery to his freedom. Lola PP I really want to post once again the famous text of the SMS: "I give you freedom, if you decide to return it will be for life, if you do not return then this is the end." With the recommendation: Children do not do this at home

   Thank you for the advice, as it seems he has already forgotten me, I have to do it too, but it will be difficult, thank you for the book "Love is a deal" I will order it and read it, I do not want to I got married, I just wanted to check what I am for him, how he looks at me, and if he doesn't love me, it's better to stay away from me, that's it. I was sure he loves me for that, I gave him an ultimatum, but alas with my finger in my mouth, I have to learn to read from men's eyes what their intentions and interests are.

   Author, that you acted naively, you acted. This is one in hand. But I welcome your idea that you want some answer to where your relationship is going. This friend of yours should be aware that you take things seriously and want development (completely normal). If he doesn't want it, that's a separate issue. Today he will tell you that he is not ready, tomorrow again and so until when? Until after 3-4 years when he falls in love with another person and decides to start a family with him, and he will only lose your time. It's a good "trial and error" story, but it doesn't need to be not only at your expense, but also to harass you for years and make you feel tense. And if he is not a strong opponent of marriage and has a good reason to deny it, then I do not see what his problem is, knowing that it will make you happy. Well - I think we all know the answer. As I said, I welcome the fact that you put the cards on the table - there is no point in playing thousands of games and pretending to be inaccessible, humble and humble, wanting something that will not happen. Your mistake is that you were stupid with this exaggerated argument and the notorious SMS, but in the end what happened happened. Look ahead and stick to yours, your life is yours, your time is precious. In the end, as someone said, the best things happen naturally. Until then, keep to yourself and have your self-confidence. Success! In the end, as someone said, the best things happen naturally. Until then, keep to yourself and have your self-confidence. Success! In the end, as someone said, the best things happen naturally. Until then, keep to yourself and have your self-confidence. Success!

   Hello! I have no intention of attacking you, but I don't think he just wanted to commit to you, or he wouldn't give you that kind of excuse. In my opinion, you do not stick to it, but only to the signature and the wedding itself. This with the gift of the house from your father is a great simplicity - so you only humiliated him (men have dignity too), but you also pressed him ... well, now suck the potpourri, no one is to blame for chasing only the wedding bells, not a real relationship, because if you really love him you will not rush for a wedding and you will feel only if you are next to him (with or without a signature). You better drop the idea of ​​reuniting and look for someone else to be happy with.

   A person writes to you to whom this has happened recently. My ex-girlfriend, whom we have known since we were children and with whom we broke up a year ago after many meetings and separations over the years, started talking to me about weddings and children on the first night we made love. Emmy, that drove me crazy. For 5 months, my head swelled with talk of commitment and living together. She didn't accept, give me time and I'm not ready to answer, even though I told her that she was dear to me, that I cared for her and that I would never lie to her or cheat on her. Not a serious relationship, but a serious relationship, to live together ... great love is a great thing. ONE WEEK, the one who told me she loved me went to live with another. They met at the sea, where she did not go with me but with her friend. Dude, I understand he was a football hooligan, but he was already done with these things ... of God. Well, now it's been 7 months since she went to him, they got married that month and she seems to be pregnant ... So you don't like wanting to marry someone, it doesn't matter who. It's a pity!

   You are 27 years old, he is 32 years old, he is obviously not sure that you are the woman of his life, what can you wait for, loving someone, nothing can stop you from being with him. Reconcile, don't run after him. In time, he may realize that he was wrong. Apparently she's not marrying him yet.

   And since you loved her, why didn't you agree to get married, why did you let her go to someone else? by the author

   The author, you obviously scared him. Marriage is still an important step in a person's life. And it is not so easy for some people to give up their free bachelor life and start a family. It may have taken him more than 2 years to move on to the next phase. You, on the other hand, were quite insistent with these conditions and ultimatums that you set. Like a little girl who stomps her foot and complains that it doesn't work for her. However, such a decision is made when both agree, and not because one of them has intended it and it has become a fixed idea. That's not how it's done. I don't know why you were in such a hurry. The idea of ​​getting married so that things don't go wrong later sounds rather frivolous. Things can always go wrong, no matter what your marital status is. I don't know how you see things, but true love does not issue ultimatums, love means free will. And out of so much desire not to confuse things, you yourself helped make it happen.

   : D You just shocked him with this: "I give you freedom, if you decide to return it will be for life" :))) Ooooh, I have no words :))), the man has decided that his return will be interpreted as voluntary slavery for life and that's why he hid: D

   To the author from 22 Because we have known her since childhood and we have had many meetings and separations over the years. This is not the first time she has gone and in a week she has been with another. Then, when she had problems, she looked for me again, but until she felt better. The last time I accepted her with joy and I wanted to give her a chance to show that she has changed, and she did not give me time at all and only talked about a serious relationship and life together. SHOULD I describe what numbers she dialed for me? ... she would hang out with anyone who smiled at her. So how can I trust her that she is not pretending, that she has changed and wants to be with me, because it is me and not that she has decided that she should marry no matter who. And given that I never said a bad word, and she even cursed me because I told her I didn't like the way she behaved. In the end, she went to the one she had known for two weeks, and there was no application left that had never treated her badly in 12 years. Should I explain more?

   I understand you very well and unlike many other comments I fully support you in what you did with the text messages and with the desire to talk afterwards. The fact that he does not want to forgive, in my opinion, is more of an excuse not to have to smooth things over. Your relationship has been serious and it is normal at some point to talk about the next step, especially at this age. Unfortunately, many men do not understand that women have a biological clock and it ticks tirelessly. You can't wait for it to settle for another 2-4 or 5 years, because we can't give birth to plus infinity. I say that because in your first sentence you mention the word "children", which is nice. In my opinion, you did not press him, but you are fed up and showed him your intentions without hesitation, namely "either you are with me or you are not". He escaped, because he is a characterless coward like many men today. Don't think about it anymore, it's good. Imagine if he had left you with 3 children and a bunch of responsibilities. Once that happened, it had to. You will find another man who truly loves you and is ready to grow old together. Success! Vic

   I fully support your ex-boyfriend's decision! He saw you for your goods, he understood that even if you get married, you will turn his life into Hell, that you will have to feel hell in front of your father, because he gave him a house - you have completely crushed every male personality in him. and he told himself it didn't make sense, he told himself you didn't love him - and he was right. Now you miss him, because you expected it to happen to your life anyway, and he shamelessly did not meet your expectations ... I hope the boy finds a chick that he can really love and be happy with.

   I did not believe that there would be so many other naive and selfish women for whom men need only to be able to fulfill some cliché (own, foreign or planted from somewhere) for the development of a relationship. Even more so related to marriage. What does "I want the development of our relationship" mean? A relationship either develops or it doesn't. This is not something that happens with a request (I want to buy ice cream - I go and buy), simply because in this relationship you are TWO and you can not just do what one wants. Of course, the opposite is true when a man "wants" something. Number 28, men are fully aware of women's biological clock, even some women themselves are not aware of it. But wanting children is one thing, wanting marriage is another. Your biological clock is unlikely to draw you to the altar. This first, and second, no matter how much your clock is ticking, it doesn't mean that every man is obliged to impregnate you on command when the "alarm" of your watch rings. There are enough cases when the man wants children and the woman does not - then what is your excuse? And this theory, that the man was a "coward" because he did not want to be what you are - can only pass for your own conscience or as tales for people. By that logic, anyone who is reluctant to go after your whistle is a coward because what you want was "normal." Everyone decides for himself what is normal for him, what he wants and when he wants it. Learn to respect other people's needs, desires and aspirations - if you want a really strong relationship, not just to be able to say "I have a husband and children" in front of people. And the tip of the ice cream is the following statement of the author " If you want to marry someone "so that things do not go wrong" - it is clear to any sane person that such a marriage is doomed to failure as soon as possible. And the most painless solution for everyone is not to have this marriage. I hope more women realize it in time. Kubrat If you want to marry someone "so that things do not go wrong" - it is clear to any sane person that such a marriage is doomed to failure as soon as possible. And the most painless solution for everyone is not to have this marriage. I hope more women realize it in time. Kubrat

   Kubrate, I'm just saying that there is nothing more normal than when you are in love and have serious intentions for someone, to want marriage and then children. And yes, no matter how unbelievable you are, there are still women who see things in this sequence and are reluctant to have illegitimate (according to the law) children. And he is a coward because they have been going for 2 years, this is not a small amount, he obviously gave her hope, and then at one point he decided that it is still better not to hurry. This is not serious, I repeat - at THIS age. It's normal for yours, so calm down. ;) Vic

   Vic, there are men who see things in that sequence, but there are men and women who don't necessarily see it that way. And when two of a different type get together, what prime? It is clear that in the end one of the two must give way, but it is VERY important how and for what reason - if someone hysterically insists on marriage, like the author, and is ready to abandon the relationship lightly, if there is no prospect of such, so things are very fundamentally rotten in this regard. When you truly love someone and are truly happy with them for the sake of the person himself, you can't choose to break up before not getting married. And I think 2 years at all, but NOT at all enough time to decide if you want to marry someone and / or have children with him. True, some people decide faster on this step and are happy, others procrastinate for a long time and finally fuck again, but you can't judge someone ONLY because "whole" 2 years were not enough for him. And I tell you again, you can't call someone a coward just because you imagine your life in a way that you don't happen to share with anyone else. No matter how old a person is, since he doesn't want marriage or children at the moment, he doesn't want to - and that has nothing to do with fear. Actually afraid of what? There are no bears in marriage that you are afraid of, which does not prevent you from wanting it. The author's problem comes from the fact that she wants some imaginary certainty that her relationship will not fail and she will have a healthy family. And no one will give her such security, because such does not exist. This is not a one-time act "I found a husband, got married, had children, now everything is fine and I can do nothing about it for the rest of my life." A stable relationship is a DAILY care and struggle of BOTH partners and it is not based on any papers, signatures, rings and the like. Kubrat

   Vic, I'm not Kubrat, but 2 years is not a short time, yes, but it's not too much ... There are people who live together for 7-8 years and have not yet decided on this step ... About For 2 years people can't judge whether they are for each other or not ... Bo

   Kubrat, I agree with you again. Author, and other girls until you realize that in a relationship you are one, not two separate individuals, there is a lot to suffer. What does it mean "if you come back it will be for life, if not ...", well, if they write to me like that, I will run away. Will I become his slave or what? Understand that some people do not want marriage, or at least have not met someone to ask for it. Well, I got married at the age of 20 to a man I knew little about. Proposed marriage to me, I accepted and so for 12 years. My husband wanted us to get married when he was 24 and we had nothing but our feelings. I am writing this to tell you that he who wants to marry marries, he who does not want to find excuses. But pushing someone for marriage is not the right thing to do. Things happen by themselves. Magicians

   I absolutely support the author and Vic. If you men think we'll go with you until you decide it's time for marriage, you're sorely mistaken. Everyone knows how good it is for men without marriage and if we have to wait for you, it may not get anywhere, but in a bright moment you decide that you do not love us and catch someone else and we hang! I won't wait for someone's ass to come! To think! If the gentleman doesn't like it - bye, next! Love it, my love, what is the problem with a damn signature? I am ready to do my best for this man, to be with him for life, and it was too early for him ... Just if you don't get married, there are other men who want them! And you decide whether to keep your wives! If you love them you will probably think! But very often it's just better to have a wife, just in front of others, and to watch you! Even better if you can give nothing for her! I'm 24, my friend is 25. He soon lost me almost forever for that reason. I don't want to get married yet, it's too early for me, but I won't wait until 30 and above! And he never once said to me "yes, I have such intentions or I don't". I'm doing it! He was even rude, telling me I wasn't the only one, etc. Is that right? !! I left, I went to another one, exactly the one I could marry in 3 months! He was ready, but I decided I loved my ex. I'm with him again, but he knows that I won't wait for him indefinitely, I won't waste my youth on someone who will kick me later. It's not a guarantee, as he told me, that he has plans for us in years to come, because then something else may come to him, but you can't hold us like that! By what right? Think of him, you men! ;)

   Oh, darling, you just got rid of it, as they say. He did not have serious feelings in this regard, and your hints before and hints about marriage and children were like that, by inertia. It's just that this person has always been on the surface in the relationship - so that he is not alone, so that he has someone to go out with and have sex with, so that he is not a "stranger without a boyfriend" - with one other, to be like the others. ... By the way, you have no idea how many relationships and marriages are on this principle ... they also like hop - come on, relationship and then marriage. Then ... comes boredom, comes the other and the other, with which things are sweet and sweet, and sometimes comes Her Majesty Great love, which breaks both marriages and debt to children and husband (s). So experience it, this is not your man. You will find true love, and every moment of your life will be meaningful and complete.

   35, with us it is my friend who wants to know what my intentions are and has let me know that he will not waste his time with hopeless relationships. Marriage and children are a matter of years, but the point is that if we are still together by then, we will both want DEVELOPMENT (Kubrate). From now on I have said to myself that I want it to be after 30, but he will not wait for me forever and with full rights. The author's mistake is that she pressed him too hard, but on the other hand he escaped easily and I don't think it was a matter of strength (masculinity, according to some, obviously we women are weak by default), rather not his has cracked so much. It's good for people to talk seriously about these things after a while and not get to do things like that. Kubrate, pink glasses .... are there no responsibilities in this world for you? Is it all a song and a fuck? Sometimes a person has to make decisions and has to consider the people he claims to love, not just them.

   Number 36, you contradict yourself. When you say that marriage is not a guarantee of anything, that "boredom comes, the other comes and the other with which things are sweet and sweet" - which I agree with - then what is the point of getting married and then breaking up? Even when you are 100% sure, there is still no guarantee of anything, and when you are not even sure, why do you do this to both? So the author's husband made the absolutely right decision. Regarding your last sentence - I do not think that the aurot will find true love, simply because she is not looking for one. She is looking for marriage, not love. And he suggests that he loves someone to justify his desire for marriage. Number 35, I'll just tell you one thing - no one can ever promise to be with you for the rest of their life. Everyone is with you because they want to be with you HERE and NOW, not tomorrow and not in 10 years. The only thing you can do is try not to change it for as long as possible. It's not just up to you, but to a large extent. Everything else is a utopia. There is no "marriage" insurance. Kubrat

   Dear author, you were wrong only with the SMS, but in my opinion this is not your man. It was very convenient for men to justify that marriage was old-fashioned! Demode another time! They are scared, but they are very scared! Because marriage is a responsibility! Your man was obviously not ready to take responsibility, you do not need such a husband! Tomorrow he will be afraid of something else important and who will you rely on? !! Look for your man! Success!

   That's right, Maggie, not everyone wants to get married, and one signature is basically a simple formality, but a church marriage is not! :) It's all about the worldview. I just sympathize with the author because she fell in love with a man who hesitates too much about his decent 34 years (that was it if I'm not mistaken). Kubrate, I'll tell you right away what he's afraid of - too much responsibility, being suffocated ... when you truly love someone you don't have such worries and that's why for me this person is a coward because he can't stand like a man and say what are his intentions, and dodge. Is there a twist, is there a lie, 100% Vic

   № 36 you are the most right of all, yes it was he was with me because he was not alone and did not invest serious feelings, we are now separated, but we write to each other as friends, he offered me to be together again, but for I shouldn't talk to him about marriage, because he can't catch another one, but this one won't be her, I'm not a base, I'll find someone else to appreciate and respect me for who I am, not to waste time with me, I don't know where he's headed, he's already years old, and he has no goals. by the Author

   "You will find true love, and every moment of your life will be meaningful and fulfilling." And I 36 would continue this sentence of yours ... and you will not roar non-stop about marriage! I'm surprised how many women have this idea fixed. I'm even glad that I don't think like them ... What does it mean "I won't wait for her all my life" ... I can't understand such muffins at all ... If you like, you'll wait! 35 Wasn't marriage important? Why did you return to your ex? If I were, I wouldn't accept you at all and I would kick you! Bo

   42- "if you love, you will wait": D: D. No, I'm not like the ones you're describing, but giving up the life you want because the one who "loves" you won't make "sacrifices" for you .... Interestingly, I'm sure you'll say right away that for me my marriage is a fixed idea, given that it is just the opposite, but I just have some plans for life and they include that. And yes, it's called DEVELOPMENT. Just because some PEOPLE want it doesn't mean it's a fixed idea. She was going to kick .... why are you so mean on this topic, you take it very personally ....

   43, what is the life you want? How is the fact that you went and gave your autograph somewhere more important than what kind of person you are with? I don't think a signature changes things. And I think that before we get to this signature, we both need to know each other very well. And even that is still not a guarantee. There are no eternal things. Besides, if marrying for you means someone making a "sacrifice" ... well, you look smart, draw your own conclusions ... Marriage is between two people, and they both have to agree. It can't be just because it occurred to the woman or the husband and let's get married. If someone I have known for two years (only!) Comes to me and says "if you don't marry me I'm leaving" I will answer "the right way" ... I don't have to marry someone with ultimatum, and for love! And yes, of course that I also want to marry the man I love one day! But I don't set goals like "I have to get married by 30, otherwise ... I will never get married" ... I meant this by a fixed idea - not the very idea of ​​getting married, but to issue ultimatums AND yes, I agree with Kubrat that I do not see with this attitude how the author will meet the love of her life. Even if she meets her, she will not recognize her, because she will immediately want to get married ... 43 I do not accept anything personally. I don't know if I'm mean, but I can't help but be annoyed by the fact that there are women who think the way I thought at 15-16. Then we played a game (I forgot the name) where there was a question of how old do you think you will get married. My idea at the time was 22, but when I turned 20 I thought about it :-) Bo whom i love! But I don't set goals like "I have to get married by 30, otherwise ... I will never get married" ... I meant this by a fixed idea - not the very idea of ​​getting married, but to issue ultimatums AND yes, I agree with Kubrat that I do not see with this attitude how the author will meet the love of her life. Even if she meets her, she will not recognize her, because she will immediately want to get married ... 43 I do not accept anything personally. I don't know if I'm mean, but I can't help but be annoyed by the fact that there are women who think the way I did at 15-16. Then we played a game (I forgot the name) where there was a question of how old do you think you will get married. My idea at the time was 22, but when I turned 20 and I thought about it :-) Bo whom i love! But I don't set goals like "I have to get married by 30, otherwise ... I will never get married" ... I meant this by a fixed idea - not the very idea of ​​getting married, but to issue ultimatums AND yes, I agree with Kubrat that I do not see with this attitude how the author will meet the love of her life. Even if she meets her, she will not recognize her, because she will immediately want to get married ... 43 I do not accept anything personally. I don't know if I'm mean, but I can't help but be annoyed by the fact that there are women who think the way I thought at 15-16. Then we played a game (I forgot the name) where there was a question how old do you think you will get married. My idea at the time was 22, but when I turned 20 I thought about it :-) Bo that I do not see with this attitude how the author will meet the love of her life. Even if she meets her, she will not recognize her, because she will immediately want to get married ... 43 I do not accept anything personally. I don't know if I'm mean, but I can't help but be annoyed by the fact that there are women who think the way I thought at 15-16. Then we played a game (I forgot the name) where there was a question of how old do you think you will get married. My idea at the time was 22, but when I turned 20 I thought about it :-) Bo that I do not see with this attitude how the author will meet the love of her life. Even if she meets her, she will not recognize her, because she will immediately want to get married ... 43 I do not accept anything personally. I don't know if I'm mean, but I can't help but be annoyed by the fact that there are women who think the way I thought at 15-16. Then we played a game (I forgot the name) where there was a question of how old do you think you will get married. My idea at the time was 22, but when I turned 20 and I thought about it :-) Bo Then we played a game (I forgot the name) where there was a question how old do you think you will get married. My idea at the time was 22, but when I turned 20 I thought about it :-) Bo Then we played a game (I forgot the name) where there was a question of how old do you think you will get married. My idea at the time was 22, but when I turned 20 and I thought about it :-) Bo

   Number 37/43, your comments are very strange to me, in each sentence I agree with half, not with half. It rarely happens :-) Marriage and children are not a matter of "compliance" with the other. They are a matter of how you feel things deep inside. And to some extent on principles. Principles are by definition not subject to "consideration" and compromise, otherwise they are not principles. And above all, marriage and children are a responsibility, as she said, and a very big one. That is why a man cannot agree to such a step at a time when he does not feel ready for it and does not have the inner motivation to do so. These things are not done out of obligation, compliance and "come from me." Above, some people said, "But the clock is ticking on us" - well, that's nice, making some kids is the easiest thing to do, but then you will be jealous that the man must take responsibility for the children, take care of them, etc. And rightly so - here I completely agree, and if I have children somewhere I will take care and be next to them to the hole, no matter the circumstances. So agree, you can't do this to please someone without wanting to do it yourself. Why don't you give birth now - isn't your friend pushing, and you love him? Do it for him, what's wrong with you? And without that it is good to give birth before 30. It is very easy from the position of the one who wants to say "if you love me, you will do it for me". If it's ice cream - maybe, if it's an apartment - maybe, if it's about your life from now on - NO. Number 42 is a little too sharp, but I think the meaning of "if you love, you'll wait" is that if you want to be with someone, you will still want to be with him with or without marriage. For the man himself. And you will have DEVELOPMENT without it being recorded on paper. And if you are CONVINCED that he / she will be the father / mother of your children, you will wait for the moment that will be suitable for both of you. And you will not tremble and go to bed every night with the thought "What if tomorrow he whines something else and dumps me?". On the issue of a hopeless relationship - there is no more hopeless relationship than the one in which things happen under pressure from one to the other. Sooner or later, the "pressures" will want to get it back and things turn to bargaining. This at best, at worst just ends. Kubrat which will be suitable for both. And you will not tremble and go to bed every night with the thought "What if tomorrow he whines something else and dumps me?". On the issue of a hopeless relationship - there is no more hopeless relationship than the one in which things happen under pressure from one to the other. Sooner or later the "pressures" will want to get it back and things turn to bargaining. This at best, at worst just ends. Kubrat which will be suitable for both. And you will not tremble and go to bed every night with the thought "What if tomorrow he whines something else and dumps me?". On the issue of a hopeless relationship - there is no more hopeless relationship than the one in which things happen under pressure from one to the other. Sooner or later the "pressures" will want to get it back and things turn to bargaining. This at best, at worst just ends. Kubrat

   Up to 42 out of 35 - I didn't go to anyone to pray to come back, he begged me! ;) We got along at the age of 30, alive and well, if we are still together to take a more serious step .. My cousin gave birth yesterday, she is 34, believe me, her pregnancy was not easy at all! And the birth was under general anesthesia, and the placenta could not be expelled, green water flowed from it ... I mean that, so I will not wait for the man! It becomes difficult for women then .. And I want to have a baby one day :)