I want to ask, why do most people think that a car is a must, especially if you have children or want to go somewhere out of town, is it so disgusting for urban and suburban transport? M, 21, student
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It is good to have a car, especially if you are traveling outside the city. If a person lives in Sofia where there is a subway, he can do without a car. Also, if he lives in a small town, he can do without a car again. People complain en masse that there is no place to park and many of the parking lots are paid and if a person is not doing well he can always take the city bus or taxi.
The sludge of the society uses public transport. Smelly, rude, with a bad appearance are the passengers, as well as children, the elderly and homeless people ... If you do not notice the difference between public transport and personal - then you are one of those listed above.
It depends on the needs - if you have children it is definitely a necessity! You have to drive them to the nursery, I have to go to the store for diapers and food quite often :) If you are honestly you do not need, you can organize transport and taxis.
No, if you don't mind traveling by public transport and your partner doesn't bother her, it's not necessary. Many people live and manage without a car. I personally would not live like that. We are in Sofia - I do not imagine that we are bound to travel only by public transport and to shop only from the nearest hypermarket. Just the idea of hauling full bags from the store by bus and waiting at bus stops. Not to mention that by car I get to work in 10 minutes, by public transport go 40 with the wait. For some, of course, the opposite is true, especially if they have a subway connection between work and home. I tried to take public transport to Vitosha - first you beat the road to the Fridge, for the bus, then you hang out for 1 hour, then it leaves you in the middle of the neighborhood at the foot and you have to climb up the hill for another half hour between houses, until you reach the beginning of the tourist route. I wouldn't do that with children. We did not want to repeat it ourselves. And imagine, the weekend to move out of town, you need a train or bus - this automatically means almost no outings and mini trips with the family. What if you have to tour destinations in different parts of the city for a limited time? If you have to go somewhere during your lunch break? Should I take a sick child / man / woman to a doctor? Should you meet someone with luggage from somewhere, or should you travel with a lot of luggage? Yes, there are taxis, but it is quite salty if you have to use them often. Driving is ultimately a convenience - it gives you independence. But you can do without it - many people can do it - you can best judge for yourself the pros and cons. We did not want to repeat it ourselves. And imagine, the weekend to move out of town, you need a train or bus - this automatically means almost no outings and mini trips with the family. What if you have to tour destinations in different parts of the city for a limited time? If you have to go somewhere during your lunch break? Should I take a sick child / man / woman to a doctor? Should you meet someone with luggage from somewhere, or should you travel with a lot of luggage? Yes, there are taxis, but it is quite salty if you have to use them often. Driving is ultimately a convenience - it gives you independence. But you can do without it - many people can do it - you can best judge for yourself the pros and cons. We did not want to repeat it ourselves. And imagine, the weekend to move out of town, you need a train or bus - this automatically means almost no outings and mini trips with the family. What if you have to tour destinations in different parts of the city for a limited time? If you have to go somewhere during your lunch break? Should I take a sick child / man / woman to a doctor? Should you meet someone with luggage from somewhere, or should you travel with a lot of luggage? Yes, there are taxis, but it is quite salty if you have to use them often. Driving is ultimately a convenience - it gives you independence. But you can do without it - many people can do it - you can best judge for yourself the pros and cons. if you need a train or a bus - this automatically means almost no excursions and mini excursions with the family. What if you have to tour destinations in different parts of the city for a limited time? If you have to go somewhere during your lunch break? Should I take a sick child / man / woman to a doctor? Should you meet someone with luggage from somewhere, or should you travel with a lot of luggage? Yes, there are taxis, but it is quite salty if you have to use them often. Driving is ultimately a convenience - it gives you independence. But you can do without it - many people can do it - you can best judge for yourself the pros and cons. if you need a train or a bus - this automatically means almost no excursions and mini excursions with the family. What if you have to tour destinations in different parts of the city for a limited time? If you have to go somewhere during your lunch break? Should I take a sick child / man / woman to a doctor? Should you meet someone with luggage from somewhere, or should you travel with a lot of luggage? Yes, there are taxis, but it is quite salty if you have to use them often. Driving is ultimately a convenience - it gives you independence. But you can do without it - many people can do it - you can best judge for yourself the pros and cons. if you have to travel for limited time destinations in different parts of the city? If you have to go somewhere during your lunch break? Should I take a sick child / man / woman to a doctor? Should you meet someone with luggage from somewhere, or should you travel with a lot of luggage? Yes, there are taxis, but it is quite salty if you have to use them often. Driving is ultimately a convenience - it gives you independence. But you can do without it - many people can do it - you can best judge for yourself the pros and cons. if you have to travel for limited time destinations in different parts of the city? If you have to go somewhere during your lunch break? Should I take a sick child / man / woman to a doctor? Should you meet someone with luggage from somewhere, or should you travel with a lot of luggage? Yes, there are taxis, but it is quite salty if you have to use them often. Driving is ultimately a convenience - it gives you independence. But you can do without it - many people can do it - you can best judge for yourself the pros and cons.
In my opinion, everyone should decide for themselves whether they need it. There was a similar topic recently. What does it matter what people say? Judge for yourself. When you have a child, you will judge again. You can have a car, but only use it when you have a lot of luggage or you have to travel at a time when there is no bus. I don't see a problem with public transport in kindergarten / school. For many people in Bulgaria, the car is not a necessity, but a demonstration of a misunderstood "social status".
To 2: The sediment of society (us) is everywhere, but mostly on our roads with their personal cars .. Otherwise there would be so many accidents and casualties ..?
There are many factors. When you do NOT need a car. - You live next to your workplace, or it doesn't take you more than 10-15 minutes to get there, either by public transport, bicycle or even on foot. This is important - if you have 1 hour to work, by bus, etc., it is suicide. - You have no small children or the kindergarten is 5 minutes walk from you. - You have a large grocery store located at a distance of less than 600-700 meters, or you have such a route that you have the opportunity to shop, get on the city and go home. - You do not travel often outside Sofia and the buses are enough for you. - If you travel by plane often, you have easy access to the subway (400-500 meters maximum), where you can push 2 carriages of 25 kilograms without fainting. If you get on the subway, it's easy to get to the airport. - You have a park nearby (for me personally it is a priority) for walking and recreation, fitness centers or places where you play sports (dancing, karate, yoga ... whatever), cafes, restaurants and bars, and if you have children you will also want playgrounds. - Your friends live nearby - This is true if you meet often. "You don't want to drive a cheap car and you don't care about maintenance." Yes, for some people it is a detail, but for others it is very important. If you cover most of these, and the ones you don't cover are relatively close, you can easily do without a car. If you need to take someone somewhere, a taxi for 10-12 levs is a much better and cheaper option than having a car that you use twice a year. I personally am on a similar wave. It's a 12-minute walk to work, or 3 bus stops, so unless it's raining heavily, I go by bike and it takes me 5-6 minutes. The subway is next to us, so I can get to the center, the store is 50 meters away, and 4-5 minutes I have a huge park, which is located next to the gym. I don't have children yet, but if I "get" them, I hear the kindergarten every morning because it is 100 meters away from us. And I rarely travel by car outside the city. If I feel like going somewhere, the airport is 20 minutes by subway.
Number two, if there is such a thing as a secret of society, then you are not very far from it
It all comes from the ego and the rules that society imposes on you, and society is a bunch of idiots. I've never had a car and I don't want to have one. I have a bike and I have a lot of fun with it, I ride with it all day and I am super happy. When I have to travel somewhere, I use my shared travel groups - It's both cheaper, they drive you from point to point, and you meet new people, which is invaluable. :) There is a problem only in the minds of flat-minded people. If a person has common sense, fools cannot divert him.
If you ask - YES! You need it because you obviously have a self-esteem problem that you think you will solve if you have a car. At one time we would say that you are complex. In reality, in Sofia the car is only a liability. However, if you are in a small town or village, you are nowhere without a car.
Number 2 still has a lot to ripen it seems to me.
I am 21, M, Sofia. I don't have a car and a license. The last thing I want to have is a car. I only have a motorcycle license, I wanted it at 16, then I drove for 2 years and I'm tired. But I'm ascetic right now.
Your car is a great tax collector-insurance, reviews, vignettes, maintenance-a kind, not a spoon for every mouth! And there are people who do not like to go to wild places - they have enough public transport, because it is cheaper! And to have children, if the garden is 100-200 meters from the block, I do not see the point of a car, if you need to move luggage, for this purpose there are moving companies - they have all kinds of transport - buses, trucks, others! And their prices are not bad - the boys are doing a good job!
Not really. You need a car if you live far away and do not have an adequate form of transport to cover your needs. You live in a village or suburb, the bus is every hour and only until 7, then you need a car. But if you live in the city, there is almost always an alternative. And I don't know how to comment on that with the children or the trip outside the city. The arithmetic is simple: a cheap car will cost you an average of 2-3 vouchers (lower class), then you have a technical inspection, insurance, replacement of parts, and then come the regular fuel and repairs, plus vignettes for suburban. This amount goes up along with the mileage while the price of the car drops. Against this background, a bus ticket to the capital from Plovdiv costs you about 22 leva (less with BDZ, if you can stand it) per person, and a taxi can vary from 5 to about 10 quintals (for more urgent cases). A lot of the above will be needed only to cover even the starting price of the vehicle. Many people say that the car is needed because they cannot organize their time on their own. She's comfortable, fact. But it is needed, not always.
Number 2, you prove that simplicity also has radicalism. Otherwise you are right about a percentage of your opinion.
I have 2 children under the age of 3, I drive an Opel Zafira and again we barely collect their luggage when we go on vacation ... What kind of intercity transport are you talking about? !!
I don't think you need it in Sofia. I have for the sole purpose of bringing me pleasure. It's a luxury car, I'm happy with it. I had free money and I wanted to have fun. But even without it, my quality of life will not decrease. All over the world, in large overcrowded cities, people ride public transport and the subway. I know people who live in London, Barcelona and Moscow. Almost no one uses a car there. However, let me note that I am single. You need a family man, but you are still young. Don't make movies at all, for a 21-year-old student it's completely unnecessary in my opinion. There are women who choose the men in the car, but there are also those who don't care. You decide what you prefer.
Don't pay attention to simple peasant women like Number 2. I am 100% sure that it is another complex from the countryside, for which the big city is a shock and it seems impossible to move. Because in the deep countryside, where it comes from, there is not even a single traffic light. And how people will perceive you so that you don't care. I didn't have a car for a long time, but now I have one. It's definitely more convenient, but it's not the end of the world if I don't have it. I haven't had most of my life. For such misfortunes as number 2 do not pay attention to them. It is obvious that he looked and reached the neighboring village. If he was at least low-level, he would know that the mayors of New York, London, Beijing, and a bunch of world capitals take the subway and buses to work. Adding mayors to them. One of the sensible reasons for neglecting Bulgarian public transport is that it is not regulated, not because it's bad or you'll be poor if you get on it. I would take a taxi, precisely because it is not regular.
Employees and workers (bakers) travel in the public transport, who "do not have" BGN 10 for taxis, which would take them to work, but they must have the latest smartphone model for at least BGN 1000, the so-called branded clothes and BGN 6 for cigarettes. They get on the stinking bus and go with hired labor to earn some money to buy a newer phone and more expensive clothes and trinkets ... They buy luxury with their blood and sweat and with the inheritance of their children. They work to consume and spend, not to invest. Whole people do not ride public transport. In the city, and 5-G to let - again the same half-humans and stinkers ride ...
There was a similar topic that day. I will repeat that as a former cart driver in Sofia, I do not understand how someone can want to die for free. It is no coincidence that driving is a profession and it is not very prestigious. Not to mention what a cock it is to be the one who can't drink a beer, because then he has to take the company home. For the last 2-3 years I have been renting a car abroad - to travel around villages in Italy and then Portugal. Relatively cheap, and at the same time, if you have your own car, I can not imagine driving from and to Bulgaria.
It depends on what money you have, author. The car is a great convenience, but also a great expense - vignettes, hull, civil, loss, oil ... I have a car and I would not lose it, as long as I have the opportunity to maintain it. But I also use public transport sometimes - it's not a pain for a dying woman. If you want to go somewhere outside the city on a picnic, for example, by car is much more convenient.
Here are mostly mostly high school graduates who still live with theirs and have no commitment to anything - just because "daddy wears, mommy kneads" ... These young people would know that you need a car to shop with it and to bring your purchases home, but they are not aware, because theirs took care of everything - shopping, cooking, serving ... they just have to go to dinner ready ... Nor did they have to carry luggage from point A to point B.
It's just that the commenters here are not independent, but live with theirs and don't know that buying only bread, two milks and soft drinks will take your hands off while you bring the bag home ... They don't notice the whole cycle: stealing money -> shopping - -> home delivery of products -> storage -> cooking, etc.
21 - Go for treatment! This is your psychopathy!
Number 4 explained it very well. The car is needed for emergencies and is often a convenience when traveling long distances. Number 21 is rough, but there is a reason in the thesis. There is this moment with phones, clothes, cigarettes ..., but it is more a matter of values. However, I do not agree with the term "wage labor" because not everyone is an investor, producer or owner. Society needs the so-called employees. Should I list that employees are: doctors, teachers, lawyers, accountants, IT specialists, journalists, government, diplomatic and political officials, even tailors and any other craftsmen who do not have their own business (because the state supports only the big and the small business is self-supporting and at a loss), they work in production so that you don't go naked and barefoot, number 21 (and we are far from the machines replacing us) ... Without t. wage labor, society will not function. Some of them work privately, others for the state, but these are professions that always work as "hired labor", because that is the system. There is nothing wrong with that ... salaries are wrong, but that's another matter. And yes, I know doctors, teachers, government officials and they are not 25 years old, who do not have cars, guess how they are provided, and they are not sludge.
I am 28 years old and I have not got out of the car since I was 18 years old. I am from Sofia. Honestly, I don't drive a car anymore. I can not take it any more. As a student, I often used public transport, but precisely because of the presence of all sorts of stinkers and simpletons, I chose to drive my car. But now I think more and more that I think it's better to put up with a stench on the bus than to drive at rush hour among nervous psychics. I would love to ride a bike or scooter, but honestly I find it quite dangerous. And if you travel by any public transport, when it's not rush hour, it's even nice. You can even sit and stare out the window. Even when I look at the busiest hours, many buses, trams and trolleys are filled for only a few stops and then are half empty.
What would animals with issued ID cards look like? Get on public transport and you will find out!
21, you have not met the man. You will feel different and positive ... as you pass.
Should I assume 21 that your employees (your comment implies that you have your own business) are "half-human and stinker"? Why don't you give them 10 a day outside the salary for fees, so that they don't expose themselves like that? And since you despise those people who make "a little money with hired labor," why don't you make the unfortunate mercenaries have a decent salary that will allow them to spend a car, so that they too become "literate people" who "do not ride public transport"? Your post 21 is arrogant and cynical and behind it I see a very repulsive person. I would never work for a man like you. In many Western European cities I have visited, wealthier people live in the suburbs. They travel to work mainly by electric trains, because this is the fastest option. If the station is further away from home, they travel to it by car, leave it in the parking lot and continue by train to the city. After 10 pm in Moscow, where I studied, in the subway a large part of the passengers are men in impeccable suits - this is the business class that comes home from work. There, the distances are monstrous, and the traffic and congestion are proverbial. And the man is tired and just wants to get home as soon as possible.
A car to carry your envelopes from the store ?! I had never heard a duller joke. I don't have a car and I shop without a problem. Of course, I didn't take purchases for one or two months ahead, nor did I spend two days like I did for two or two months ahead. ;) You're a joke. Most likely fat ones if you both need a car for one meal and make a car vital with the argument that .... it is impossible to buy food without a car. Just how it sounds ... Hahahaha
And on Monday there is a stench in the city, I wonder why? If the half-human passengers bathed from Sunday to Sunday, then Mondays should not stink like cattle ... yes, but NO!
I would ask another question. How many cars does a family need? Honestly, I'm fed up with various people from Drishlev who can't make the traffic jam and pollute the air with the rotten hedgehogs, not out of necessity but out of pampering, because you see they can't use public transport. Otherwise, yes, the car is a necessity, but everything must be in moderation. Not everyone can have a car, often two or three, or each family can have 3-4 cars. In Bulgaria, unfortunately, we are witnessing just that.
in many western European cities, well-dressed people can be seen in the subway, including in suits and briefcases, who are by no means bachkaters. It's just that people are practical and if they are more comfortable with the subway, they use it without caring who will say what. Otherwise, in many places the traffic is serious, the streets in the center - narrow and by car will be much slower. The comment above was quite vulgar.
35, that's right, in the west, they try to make it practical for them, but here if you don't have a car, you're a second-hand person and many people out of godfather's shame are forced to buy even if they collect dust in front of the block. die virgins. Sad but true.
32, you are probably referring to the lady in numbers 24 and 25. Let me tell you, people like her often did not live alone for 1 year, but from their father's house they moved directly to their husband's house. They are overweight, with flatulence, belly, cellulite and stretch marks. to splash in front of the TV to watch another reality show .. From people like her you can hear some dumb jokes, believe me;)
In Bulgaria, some people are shaken by strong complexes, as can be seen from certain comments. And this is not the case in Western Europe. Here in Switzerland, where I have lived for 9 years, even ministers, bank employees, UN employees and many others with quite good incomes use public transport because it is fast, practical and cheap. And as for emergencies, they are urgent because they happen 1-2-3 times a year. If you need a car to go quickly to a hospital or anywhere, you can just take a taxi 2-3 times a year. And finally, why does the municipality of Sofia put so much money in the subway if no one will use it? !! It's the same with clothes. Every peasant whose parents have at least a neighborhood store among the panels in Kaspichan or Polski Trambesh wants to show how rich he is in branded clothes, perfumes, telephones and chains. That's why when my father and I once watched a statement by the president of Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg, my father exclaimed - this billionaire, and he went for my jeans and a simple T-shirt! How can I explain to him that man has no complexes and hence the need to show how rich he is? !!
I can't wait for the law to introduce the old cars to pay a much higher tax, because I'm tired of nowhere to go from hedgehog tombs! Each with 2 cars, a cart type before disintegration, but otherwise it would be a shame for the city to drive. No, it's a shame to drive a tomb. F21
I have a lot of funny individuals like 21. I have a BMW 3 2015. Let's say it's a luxury car. I'm good at what I do, even though I'm a mercenary and I can afford it. And people like the lady in question don't ride in it if they show me what they really are. I took it only to bring me pleasure, I am a fan of the brand and I do not care what others think. By car to work and takes almost an hour, and by subway I am in 20 minutes. As a half-man, I go to work with the city man. It's just that my time and nerves are valuable and I prefer to read a book while sitting for 20 minutes, instead of getting nervous in traffic jams. I also don't go to a meeting with a woman, at least in the beginning. We meet somewhere, drink something, eat and so on. Not that I'm hiding, it just happens. When I go straight from work, I'm without a car, I can drink a glass or two of wine. And I found that when I'm on foot, I filter various hollow watering cans. The car is not in the photos on Facebook or Tinder and only my relatives know what I am driving. There are a lot of decent girls who don't care what kind of car you have. There is something else. The planet is not for one day. And the purity of the air in Sofia depends on each of us. We know what the climate problems are and how they are getting more serious. When I drive unnecessarily, I am annoyed by the idea that I also contribute to this. I'm not an extremist, I need to drive my car, but when I can get somewhere quickly and conveniently without it, I prefer not to use it. Author, keep in mind that the car requires high maintenance costs. If you can't afford them, you better not. Especially if you don't need it. There are people who will really look at you as a second-hand person, but there are those who who do not sleep at all. The important thing is how you feel about it
"After 10 pm in Moscow, where I studied, in the subway a large part of the passengers are men in immaculate suits - this is the business class that comes home from work." Business class? Not confusing the concepts a bit?
43, I correct my mistake. I wanted to say businessmen of a larger caliber who stay late in their offices or have had protracted meetings.
Parch ... Business class in Russia are a choir with 800 square meters of houses and personal drivers. They do not take the subway, not because it is "below their level" but because it is dangerous for people in their position to take such a risk.
Personally, I need the car. My favorite hobby is traveling, plus many other things that require a car.
Judge for yourself the author. And number 2 is some wild peasant who certainly drives a car under 20k and will never work for a salary over 1000 :).