Marriage?

   Author, there are other complexes on the site, but your story is the most banal and boring. Tell yourself straight - I can't afford to have a family, no wealthy woman will take me because there is nothing to do? I suggest. The grapes are sour in two words. The truth is one - women run away from men like you. There is nothing more repulsive than a man's laziness and complex, but with pretensions. And if you deceive a fool after all, he will actually cheat on you. From this point of view - you are right, but for yourself and for those like you - for God's sake, do not create families! Otherwise - people from Vancouver to Vladivostok have financial problems, but a typical syndrome of the Bulgarian complex man is that he justifies himself with the state, the system, even if there was no war and cataclysms in which brave and worthy men die to remain female enough to such as them. Mercantile or not - women, run away from the Bulgarian complex, you will not see daylight. In addition to all the grumbling and excuses, you will have to put up with his mom, because there is no older mother's son than this type of men. So, dear women - mercantile or not - when you see such a specimen, engage in 5th gear and try to disappear from his horizon within the next 5 minutes, because it can ignite his father's Lada, catch up with you and bend the sheets of your new Mercedes - just like that, out of anger and complexes and because you can't be there, even in your sleep.

   As a third party, I can add that the author and commentary No. 1 are complex. The author cannot find a decent woman, and comment No. 1 cannot find a man with money to milk him.

   Number 1, the author that he is complex, well, but yours is a bit out of bounds ... what Ladi, what Mercedes and how many women in BG have brand new Mercedes (bought with their own money). You are too enthusiastic ... The author's description is a bit sewn with white threads, in general he has gathered all the clichés together and created a story, but your comment is no less cliché ... I wonder what will come out of such a dispute. .. Author, marriage occurs when one or more of the things you have listed do NOT happen in the family. In almost every couple, at least one of the things you talk about happens, but fortunately in very few things all happen together ...

   Why? The author thinks aloud, as they say. A little narrow-minded, but apparently he saw it next to him and that's what he thought. I don't think he's right, at least because people are different and not everyone looks at money. The example of the Second World War and the cataclysms is simply absurd ... Author, I advise you to find a girl who will get to know you and accept you as you are, whatever you are! What carp, what parasites, man? If you are over 23-24 years old, live with mom and dad, grumble and divide the women of the two cases you described, there is no point in wasting time writing here and explaining to you some things that you obviously do not believe.

   Am I the only one who notices how selfish and greedy women have become? At the same time, however, they are lazy and devoid of ambition and interest. The members of the fairer sex in question are accustomed to practicing the profession of princess, ie sitting in restaurants and smoking cigarettes in anticipation of HE appearing from somewhere and fixing their lives. They only know how to want and find flaws in everyone around them. They are all to blame for something, and they themselves are perfect. And the members of the fairer sex in question move from the profession of "princess" to the profession of "mother" if someone is deceived to marry them. The mother's profession for them is sitting in bars and playgrounds, gossiping, rejoicing and smoking cigarettes, without paying special attention to children. Well, I'm looking for a woman who is equal to me. I don't want to dominate her, and she to be completely stripped after the shed. What is complex and clichéd? The author

   I completely agree with №1. The opinion is realistic and very useful for those who have not steamed. Unfortunately, I am one of the golden female carp and now I can only evaluate the opinion of №1. BUT I generally agree with the author - you have to be crazy to get married. There are, of course, lucky people who live long and happily until death do them part, BUT if you screw up, divorce is an insanely bloated and illogical procedure. You can't say that you don't love the person, but you have to prove who is to blame - a complete Middle Ages! So my opinion - you don't need a signature for love ...

   g30: "There is nothing more repulsive than a man's laziness and complex, but with pretensions." I got married a week ago. We are extremely happy together. We have 2 years of experience on a family basis. My husband is naked as a mouse, so am I. We do not have our own roof. Until recently, there was no well-paid job, BUT ... He is EVERYTHING for me, he is my whole world ... He is the sweetest, the most caring, the most caring man in my life. Nobody believes me when I tell him that he runs the household every day ... He doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke ... Every free second he tries to be with me and next to me ... I have a special genetic disease and I literally die with everyone who passes by. day, but he is selflessly ready to take care of me (in whatever condition I am), to love and take care of me for the rest of my life ... He is extremely active, resourceful and careful ... And this is his second marriage. ,, because the Babe from his first marriage was constantly looking for Uncle Parichko and you see, she got pregnant by chance ... unknown by whom, but she accused him of being naive and he stuck to her mind ... And so 8 years full of quarrels, infidelity and child care. As a cover, he deliberately took away the parental rights over the child. She doesn't want to hug him, she hurts him too. Then they divorced and I appeared on his horizon. Yes, he is not rich and never will be. Yes, he doesn't have his own roof over his head and we will hardly have one, with these BG incomes ... BUT ... He has experienced enough to be able to appreciate the Man next to him and to make all his efforts and all his love, to keep it so that SHE can feel comfortable in her skin. Such men also exist, but women neglect them because they cannot provide them with material comfort. But, believe me,

   number 8, congratulations! I'm very happy for you. Your man takes care of you (sick woman), the household and works. I don't believe he relies on his parents and farts lazily in front of the TV. Most women just want a working man. For your own home - it is obsolete and without it is not worth it. Nowadays, one has to be mobile, and 15% interest is crazy. In short - your situation has nothing to do with that of the author, and with that of 90% of Bulgarians, and Europeans in general. However, the author only knows how to grumble and find excuses and is to blame

   Author I have a suggestion to become gay. You will both be equal and work together for a common future. But try not to be active gay because the passive are very mercantile.

   From the author May, it seems that those who recognized themselves in the examples I have described are obvious from their meaningless comments. I see that evil is flowing without borders, which is typical in Bulgarian. No one obviously understands the idea of ​​the whole exercise, and it is to point out how wrong the value system of most people is today !!! Namely, that some transitional things are seen, such as artificial appearance and material benefits. Nothing spiritual is left anymore !!! When a marriage is concluded, it is stated that you are together for better or for worse. The partner next to you should be aware that by coincidence he may have to take on your burden in the marriage, but today's muffins, when faced with difficulties and problems, prefer to beat their whip and beige. So where is the point of marriage then. When a person is well, many people hang around him, but when there are problems, everyone covers up and forgets about him. I am very interested in which of what I have written you judge that I am a pampered mother's son and I am a kind of laziness who lives with his parents?

   Again, the author is to blame for the author - no one here denies the spiritual, but I doubt that a "spiritual" person like you has gone to church outside of Christmas and Easter. Only mother's sons and incompetents grumble like you. You are neither married nor even have a girlfriend, but you are now sure that women were such and such. We just run away from grumblers, incompetents, mother's sons, ready-made people, complexes. No girl would mind being together with a working boy, marrying and starting a family, but yes - women today expect men to take responsibility for their families or do housework, look after children, so that we can work. In marriage, the woman has her own expectations, as does the man. You can't just grumble at me and wait for some fool to screw her. Therefore - get out of Hotel Mama, find a place to live and a job and be a more positive person. The other is easy. There will always be a woman like you to curl up.

   Oh author, people have a value system, but they have long understood that love does not feed you or your children. Because in Bulgaria it has long been a matter of physical emigration / you only work for that /. Over 56% of Bulgarians live on the brink of emigration and they are the parents of these young ladies. What can the young girl see from this, that love means power outage due to non-payment, bailiff because of water, etc. If you are a bachelor, as I suppose, in order to have requirements for the lady and you must be able to offer, what do you offer? You offer naked love, the bad thing is that all men can offer this and you are one of many. It is normal for women to choose men as fathers of their children who can offer long-term financial security and shelter in addition to love. Especially if the lady is beautiful and educated and has not passed the whole neighborhood. And of course, the more benefits you offer, the more you will be wanted. It's like announcing to an employer in the labor market that you are not fit for anything but that he is obliged to want you. Of course, if you have experience and recommendations for the profession you will be more desirable. In the words you write, you look like a newly graduated student who wants to work at the maximum salary in his specialty. Ask yourself first what is marriage? Marriage is a contract between two people who have different obligations and equal rights in cohabitation. To date, no one has judged which of the two sexes has heavier responsibilities. If you see men's duties as heavier, I'm sorry, but no one is forcing you to sign the contract by force. He doesn't think there have ever been more love marriages. Money is spinning the world again,

   №13, "relocation" should mean something like "moving out of the village"? ;) emigration ~ = urbanization? Otherwise your speech is good!

   The author is almost 100% right, not to say completely. I'm just interested in how most of the commenters thought he was complex, lazy and poor. The things he talks about are largely true, there are exceptions, of course, but the problem is that they are exceptions. I am very interested in what the young ladies, number 13, is talking about, what they offer to the gentlemen with good financial opportunities. Love is clearly not, because they choose them for money. What then??? Just as there are a lot of men offering only love, there are also a lot of naked girls looking for money. And in order not to accuse me of being complex, I don't have money to support a woman and other nonsense, I will say that I have enough money, I am not lazy at all either. Hollow watering cans with big pretensions around me as much as you want. I can easily marry everyone together without straining at all. Except they can't give me anything but sex. They are neither intelligent, nor attentive, nor educated. Whoever takes them will only be a burden to him. So I ask again, those who marry for "financial security", what do they offer in return. Now I remember, they offer financial instability, because they can easily make a man's financial situation from good to very bad. In this line of thought, I can say that stupid men with money have started to decrease, no one, no matter how rich, wants a bottomless barrel next to them, it's not worth the money just if you want to talk about money !! what they offer in return. Now I remember, they offer financial instability, because they can easily make a man's financial situation from good to very bad. In this line of thinking, I can say that stupid men with money have started to decrease, no one, no matter how rich, wants a bottomless barrel next to them, it's not worth the money just if you want to talk about money !! what they offer in return. Now I remember, they offer financial instability, because they can easily make a man's financial situation from good to very bad. In this line of thought, I can say that stupid men with money have started to decrease, no one, no matter how rich, wants a bottomless barrel next to them, it's not worth the money just if you want to talk about money !!

   Number 13, women choose fathers for their children on other criteria, not only on financial stability. Number 15, doesn't it occur to you that there are women who make enough money and don't lean on yours? There are women who are hardworking, ambitious and smart, but maybe you don't know them. Author, mercantile women have been and always will be, as well as men-ready. There are mother's children of both sexes, who can do nothing but cling to their mother's skirt, grumble and be lazy. When a man decides to get married, he promises "in wealth and poverty, in joy and sorrow ...", etc. Not only are there women princesses, but there are also men who think of themselves as princes. But, as is well known, demand determines supply. As long as there are men willing to spend money, there will be mercantile women. Magicians

   At №14 I have to say moving out means that the man works for BGN 650, the woman for BGN 450 and they are a family of four living in a medium-sized city. By cutting their taxes on how much they have left. The municipal kindergarten is BGN 60 per month for one child. The villagers don't think about them, they only go to the store for sugar and oil, the problem with them is different, that they buy their milk at 35 cents, cheaper even than lemonade. №15 You ask what the ladies offer? "The lady is beautiful and educated and the whole neighborhood hasn't passed her" if we add a good housewife, what else do you want? In order to be and continue to be beautiful for a lady and need support, it is true that support is not cheap, but whoever wants to pay for it. If you want to take a model to your business meetings, you have to buy her an expensive necklace in tune with the dress, in addition to support, you yourself will not want to take her in a dress from the mall. But I do not agree at all that she earns her money to be nice at your business meeting, and the tired woman does not look beautiful at business meetings and does not have time for high quality support. So whoever is looking for what he is looking for in his life finds it, if you want an elite, you have to offer an elite, if you don't have money you are satisfied with what you have, you sit on your ass and don't grumble about who was what. There are passengers for each train. If you still want as a man to have the right to more choice, go to Russia, where men are still less in percentage and are a sought-after individual. So whoever finds what he is looking for in his life finds it, if you want an elite, you have to offer an elite, if you don't have money you are satisfied with what you have, you sit on your ass and don't grumble about who was what. There are passengers for each train. If you still want as a man to have the right to more choice, go to Russia, where men are still less in percentage and are a sought-after individual. So whoever finds what he is looking for in his life finds it, if you want an elite, you have to offer an elite, if you don't have money you are satisfied with what you have, you sit on your ass and don't grumble about who was what. There are passengers for each train. If you still want as a man to have the right to more choice, go to Russia, where men are still less in percentage and are a sought-after individual.

   Hahah, number 17, cheer me up. It's the coolest when someone is kidding, and he doesn't feel it and keeps explaining himself :-) Let me tell you, number 14 meant that it says "survival", and moving out sounds like moving out, something like " to move out of the village ".

   I'm number 15, number 17 I want to remind you that we're talking about marriage, not going to business meetings. I go to meetings alone or with colleagues, I select them according to what they can and know, not what they look like. The woman wanted support, and so did my husband, why only you have to spend money on yourself. Men also need nice clothes, cosmetics and accessories. I am very interested in how a woman earning 600 leva a month keeps her husband to bring more home and has to support her, and she has to spend her patch on coffee and nonsense. On top of that, do you expect the other person to do something that you yourself have not achieved and do not even try to achieve. Absolutely no one owes you, remember it! In conclusion, I can add that there are families living on 1000 leva per month in total, but they are happy because they care for each other and try together in life. Nothing,

   I agree with number 19 - above all, respect and the common goals of the family are important, but there is a saying - "When poverty enters through the door, love comes out the window. "As long as you are not poor - to rent, medicines, bills, food - the rest is easy. I have been observing different models for a long time and I can say that with different people, different models succeed. Here is my friend Yu. - She comes from a small village, she graduated from two not very legitimate universities, already 32 years old. Long time no see? walking with the men, they used her and threw her away until she met P. / 31 years old /. He is a mechanic, sometimes he is not paid. She insists they have their own house in his village, near the city, so that they can be independent and be able to offer security to their future children. And here - she went to England for a year, they saw that it would not happen. When she returned, she bought a car with that money so that she could work in the city. Find a very good job. She earns at least 50% more than him, living in a room with a bathroom and kitchen in his parents' house temporarily, he covers with his salary all expenses, she saves her covers her personal expenses and those around the car. They both saved money, every corner, I don't know if they know exactly how much they saved. They have been together for 7 years, for me their model is successful and sooner or later they will buy a plot of land, build a house, but for some a bystander may look like this - this cook, lives with him, he pays everything, and she jerking your car and not? puka. But they know that she is the saver, that her salary is high and regular, and that he relies on this money when his is late, when his car breaks down, and on their common dream - their own little house. S. and V. - both 55. She was a lifelong teacher, he - a lifelong problem with alcohol. Never no ? has given money, live with her parents. All her life she tolerates him and teases him that she does not give money, that she has to deal with everything, pay bills, look after the children. When in 1997 the state went bankrupt and stopped? pays the $ 10 salary she even dug up a few fields, started watching animals in her garden until she was completely ruined. He stops watering, starts to? gives money, without much effort can earn over BGN 1,000, because he is a specialist, they do not pay rent, the bills are low. Soon their children go on their way, she loses her job and does not look for another, he finds an incentive to work and earn more. Today they live better than ever with his BGN 2,000, she takes care of her sick parents, she is not looking for a job. For me a successful model, because they have been together for 35 years, they are happier than ever. At first glance, however, people like the author will say - look at this one, she doesn't want to work, man? she endured. But he knows how much? he also owes that she will take care of his mother this winter, and also gives private lessons and in the meantime earns better than before. She was 26, he was 45. She had just graduated from university, he was divorced with half an apartment, a business, several cars. He has an idea for a new business and? proposes that she manage it at the minimum wage for the position, but with 5% of the profit. She develops the business, he earns about BGN 200,000 a year just for him, she takes BGN 10,000 from the profit a small salary per year (as they understood). He has a net 190,000 left, pays about 20,000 tax and is still a fat plus of BGN 170,000 (he earns many times more from other places) - he says? - see, keep your money, I will cover the costs, I don't care what you do with your money. After a few years, he saves enough and builds a family house that is only his, because they are not married. They both earn and are better off financially together than separately. The model is successful because they've been together since 2000, but look - some people whisper that she's a muffin and a Gold Digger, that she just sucks his money, that he gives his money to her instead of his first wife. They both know that he has long given his ex-wife his entire home, supports his children in expensive universities abroad and relies on his second wife's money saved if something happens to his business, if he gets sick and knows that she will be by his side at such a time. But look - the author here will see only one Muffin with a middle-aged man. He is 45 years old, divorced with older children, who live with him in the village, help him with the farm, the animals. She is 35 years old of Roma origin, abandoned with a big and happily married Bulgarian daughter. They both live in his house. He covers all the expenses from his salary as a tractor driver in the Cooperative, she takes care of the cows, the home, his children. She pays nothing, but everyone is happy to be his wife. The model is correct because they have been together for at least 5 years, they have been through good and bad, they have looked after sick parents, they have buried them, in the winter they share the cold in the small old country house, in the summer it is terrible heat. The author will raise a finger - a dirty gypsy, just sucks the money of the man who trembles from morning to night, but does not know that when they sell in the spring the calves she took care of pay all the borscht, he does not know that they spend the winter with her winter clothes. .... ... .... We all know all sorts of examples of men and women who have been together for many, many years - married, unmarried, but happy together. They buy and build houses, repair their parents' old panels, save, buy food, take care of their children, take care of the sick and the elderly. What do you think - is this achieved if one sucks from the other and the man is a slave to his wife or vice versa? Until tomorrow, we can argue about whether women, whether men are bad or good, but I will tell you one thing - a man and a woman in marriage (strong relationship) can achieve much more together than separately, if they think as WE, not as ME. Sometimes it is better to leave the woman's money in it, because you know that she is a good saver, and you will waste it, because it will give you some 1000 BGN, if you hit the car, for example, sometimes it is better to give recognition. to her husband instead of telling him how you managed on your own ... Everyone finds their own model. There are different people, different models, but for me, if you are with someone over 10, if you are happy with him, you have a home, you have paid your bills and you have something to eat, then your model is successful. Starting to grumble like the author from the beginning is the only wrong strategy. To have a successful marriage, you must first have a marriage.

   .... I would not comment on the topic of the author, it sounds too simple and naive, written as if a student memorized the lesson, without even understanding it .... up to 20; I do not read long posts, but yours I read it with pleasure and as you say the examples there are as many as there are families ... and the last sentence says it all ... greetings ... ZARA

   It is very interesting that you think of me as a boutique lady, and in our country the boutique is the man, I am ,13, 17 I am a woman of 40, I live in a big city by the sea. I go to coffee with friends, but in the neighborhood the coffee is 40 cents. I have a wonderful family of 18 years, with a loving carpenter husband and two growing boys, I work as a cashier in the neighborhood store. Twice in my life I have gone for a manicure, I don't know that it is BGN 20, but I prefer to buy children's slippers with them. Yes, my husband is the one who brings 1000 BGN at home, but ... I distribute the money at home, because we have decided that in fact at home he is the biggest waster. However, once every three years I allow him to have fun, to buy sneakers for BGN 250, I am really dying of anger when two months later I see them covered with carpenter's glue, but if he is happy to have them, what so much. Maybe you don't believe but he is at home the one who wants the socks lacoste, because the others paired his legs, he is the one who wears short shorts of BGN 40 each and there is no T-shirt cheaper than BGN 20. He can't shave with cheap razors and he wants them to be Wilkinson, and yet, if I have the chance, I set aside for him, why not see his smile. As a child, he enjoyed expensive perfume and kept the soap in the bathroom with bay oil.

   From 21 - Zara, thank you for agreeing with me at least on this topic - the cases described are real and I can put the story of number 22 to them with a pure heart, but people like the author would still say - look at this one, the man ? takes twice as much from her, she is the user, etc., without even thinking that without her this man has long accumulated huge debts for nonsense, and now leads a fairly quiet life and has his joys, and at the same time time his bills are paid, the children are fed and he has a good position in society. You see, things are relative. I still believe, if not in marriage, then at least in family cohabitation and in the family as such. Two can achieve much more than just one, and if there is love, understanding, problems are solved as if by themselves. If we constantly measure with scales, who gives and takes how much, better to push alone as the author. At least he can only blame himself for his failed and empty life.

   Hehe :) I bet the author is the same individual who was angry that his wife didn't give him her salary, but walked more and more beautiful. At the same time, he did not give her his salary either, but that is another matter. He finally scratched his head, ajeba, why is he married, since it is customary for men to support women. With the difference that his went to work and was not a burden to him, but this is another topic :)

   Number 20/23, here I will agree with you. There is no use in grumbling like that of the author, and in the end it doesn't matter who gives and who takes the money, as long as one doesn't try to accumulate assets on someone else's back. By the way, why do I think I know the heroine of the case "She's 26, he's 45"? :-) With health and wishes for more babies ;-)

   I can't understand why a man has to support a woman. Are most women so dumb that they can't make money and be independent! I am a woman who is just waiting for me to support her without moving her finger at all and she will not take any money. And let most continue to look for men with money to support them.

   26, there is a difference between "does not want to move a finger" and "does not earn enough to be independent." The circumstances are such that in MOST professions the pay is lower for women than for men, and it happens that a woman is hardworking, but still does not earn as much as a man. Then is she guilty again?

   Author, you are right, that's right ... But like any normal Bulgarian, get used to it, such is life here. However - a few tips from me - study and work hard, but for yourself, buy a home before you get married, and if even after you do, do not reveal your cards to Her Majesty, anyway, she is very she will soon check you financially without you noticing. Have a fund "and I'm human" and when they tell you "you don't understand me!" You must have understood one thing - for her you are no longer the only one. If you are not ready for such a life, the alternative is a fun time spent in hobby and friends, until you are sure that this is the right person for you ...