I thought of writing in a similar neighboring topic, but I decided it was better to open a new, more specific one. At first glance, it is not serious to ask such a question, but when you think about it ... I'm sure that many ladies will say that they would be outraged if they caught their partner doing it. Plus, hardly anyone does it with the thought of their own ... that is, at least mentally does it with another. Whether she's his girlfriend, a neighbor or a porn star ... does it matter. Do ladies tend to swallow it under specific conditions? Let's say: 1. They haven't "given" him for some reason (healthy ...) for a long time. 2. "They give it to him", but they understand that he needs significantly more. 3. Why should this confuse them, when they receive the necessary attention, when in practice there is no real rival. ... In the end, there are two alternatives - either abstain (too unhealthy in the literal and figurative sense), or find "something outside". I do not refer to the cases when the lady does not get what she needs, and he takes care of himself. In fact, the comments may be from both sides. In a sense - and men caught their ladies ...
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It doesn't confuse me at all. For me, this is not infidelity in the least. Like fantasies, they are just fantasies. Diversification and nothing more. It would be more insulting for me to look at other women in front of me (which for me is a sign of disrespect). G30
I am a 23 year old woman. and for me masturbation is completely normal, even in a relationship. My friend does it and I do it. We often travel to universities, work and this is a human holiday. Unlike most couples, we obviously share these things and it is not a problem when we both get together and have sex together, but when we are not each with ourselves and our fantasies. I don't consider it infidelity.
Why is that? Understandings of all kinds but in modern society I do not see how it could be accepted.
Pff, what an infidelity a man was ... a very strange point of view. I am a woman and I masturbate, so is my husband. We used to travel to work a lot and in the evening we heard each other to finish together. I do not find anything bad, shameful or wrong. And if I accidentally caught my husband having fun alone, I think I would really like it and I would offer my help. On the other hand, I don't miss sex, I masturbate because I like it and the feeling is different and I won't be happy to be "caught".
What kind of infidelity is this ??? Masturbation is a natural process of self-satisfaction. Everyone does it (men and women) to one degree or another, unless someone is asexual. My understanding of infidelity is rather to convey the trust of your loved one with another physically / sexually / and emotionally. And everyone has fantasies, but most of them remain just that! >> M. 32г. <<
And I think like №3. For me, the situation is different. When I'm not having sex or oral sex, and my fiancé can't take it anymore, I send him to serve himself in the other room with a movie, and he tells me, "I'm better with you, I get more pleasure." He is my first and always tries to make me happy in every way, but it's weird that while other men almost hide from their wives while masturbating, mine won't come off me: D and even offers me to stay while serviced. Would a man explain to me why this happens? I keep to my personal space, and my fiancé doesn't seem to want one. I also feel better being with him, but sometimes I really want to relax alone for 10 minutes and I don't care to make him do anything. I don't mind watching porn together, nor separately, therefore masturbation is normal and I would not describe it as infidelity. F, 26
Thank you for the inclusions. So far, you all take it for granted. Like actually myself. I'm sure there are those who would condemn him or at least resent him internally. Interestingly, porn also intervened. His place in a couple is usually denied. Maybe we should mention the "toys"? It is generally clear about the vibrator. But how does an artificial vagina sound to you? Do you just know that he has it (and have no objections) or even participate with her? We have the first one at home and it comes into play when we are together. She never uses it herself. For the second - I would not dare to open a word at all :)) So I wonder if I will read some bolder opinions.
Until №8 - "and even offers me to stay while being served. Would a man explain to me why this happens?" The explanation is very simple, he hopes you will remember for yourself that he likes it if a woman relieves him! It will be different for the woman if the tongue unloads her (unless it is something harder), so the man will feel more comfortable, to relax, and the woman to unload it, methods a lot. And if you don't want to do that, you better break up, this is not a relationship!
It's me again - №8. When it comes to toys, I'm in favor. I have had a vibrator as a gift for several years, but I don't use it often. The feeling of feeling your partner's fingers or penis is much better than with toys:) Respectively, I am in favor of the vagina, I even offered my fiancé to take it, but he again said that he prefers it to be in me. than in some silicone. Now I remembered, author - if you want to try something new with your partner and it is cool for her, I recommend the orgasmic Durex gel;) You put a small drop on the clitoris of the partner and act on it with your fingers. In 2-3 minutes max will be over. Personally, it works for me every time. The bad thing is that I seem to notice getting used to it and without it I need more time to be brought to the finals. It is small in quantity (10ml) and is about BGN 20. but it's worth the money.
The Czech Republic is not infidelity, but a means of obtaining sexual pleasure. I masturbate from time to time, my wife too. and when he's in menses, he usually checks me out and empties me. It is very arousing to touch my testicles and anus, especially at the time of ejaculation. He does the same thing when we fuck.
So having a wife and polishing a cane is mega loser. There is no normal man who likes to masturbate. Chicory is just a relaxation of tension. I know that many men shine when their wives are in a cycle. But this super loser. Dudes, what are these women for if they don't satisfy you? So, a woman who refuses to satisfy me orally because she was in a cycle is selfish. I had such a boyfriend once. When the menstrual period came, she forgot about me. I also noticed that this is not possible. She was not moved, she said that when she was in a cycle she had no desire for anything, not even a whistle. Ok, I told myself, I found another one that didn't play such tricks on me. A man of chikii with a woman is like a dog that lives in a butcher's shop and is fed vegetables.
<14> When you get married and have at least one child, come and write this again;)
15, that's right. And when I was 18, I shouted to myself "eeeh, just to get married one day and end with the checks, I'll fuck my wife all day". Alas, reality is not always as we imagine it.
Hahaha. Guys, take it easy, I'm married. I have been married twice. My first marriage ended 5 years ago, I have a child by my first wife. Chikii while I was married, I did not. We divorced, not because of sex, of course. Even having sex with her was great. Now I am married to my second wife, I have been living with her for several years, I fuck her almost every night, not accepting excuses like: "I'm tired", "I'm sleepy", "my head hurts". There is no such film as chikii in a healthy and alive woman. You're just bad at bed. If my wife doesn't want to please me, I have other options. I can find a mistress, or just get a divorce. If you ask women for sex, you are to blame. These things are said before marriage. There is no such excuse as children, etc. If we go to bed at night, he takes it or paws it and that's it. If he doesn't, straight and way. People also get married to have sex, not to polish the cane.
I support 14! I am married and have a 1 year old child and my wife and I have regular contacts without manual labor ...
In general, polishing is a loser, but to have a wife and to polish is already for the ultimate losers, you will forgive if I have offended someone.
Self-care for families is the right of individual choice. I will mention that a person changes in life - diseases, obesity, all kinds of compromises ... At least do not be absolutely sure that you will want your partner for life. And separation or divorce are not the best solutions quite often! The main question here is how the other (does not) accept this.
<17> Now I'm expecting your two wives ... or at least one of them to join the discussion and confirm that you flatter her every night;)
17th - and you're right and you're not. Your child grows up without a father (or a second). Well done, a very masculine act. And that's just because you're there. On the subject - whatever, if there are going to be five naked tits and perverts next to me, I see no problem with masturbating. It's even part of the game.
I am 17. I did not divorce my first wife because of sex or lack of sex. We have not had any sexual problems with her. The reasons were different (no, I did not cheat), but at the moment it does not matter. My child does not grow up without a father, I take care of him. I constantly take it and sleep with me. She lives near me, I pay and regularly support (and not only), we have communication about everything, of course. Although we divorced, we decided that we should maintain a normal human relationship for the sake of the child. We go to parent-teacher meetings together, we make his birthdays together, we hear each other regularly, we discuss many things with her. In fact, we are not talking to her about anything but the child, and this is mature and responsible behavior. I don't understand parents who turn their divorces into wars and set their children against the mother / father. Otherwise, I hear from my child almost every day. Weekends are more often with me. He does not lack paternal care and attention. My second wife does not have children of her own, but she accepts things well. But my comment was about something else. I've been with a lot of women, but I've only lived with 3. Before my current wife, I lived for a few months with another woman, with whom I also had no sexual problems. By the way, most of my boyfriends in the past have done everything I want in bed and have not refused me just like that. Yes, sometimes your girlfriend is sick, too tired, etc., but that doesn't mean I'm going to make a fuss. I have no idea what you like in chicks. Every man knows that there is no pleasure in chika. But if we assume that single men have no one to have sex with, ok. But to have a wife and to shine means you got to this place yourself. My first wife and I had a long period of 3-4 months, when she had serious health problems and we didn't have sex, nor did I care about it. I don't know at all how a man who has a wife will be ready to make a chick. And even if there is no woman, to drive on chikii, with so many free and scattered women, it also seems stupid to me. We've all done chicks as young people. No chick can compare to the pleasure of putting it in a woman's vagina. I just want to tell you that I'm not a freak who doesn't compromise on his sex drive. When my wife is sick or too tired, I do not insist, because then sex is nothing special. But for me, women's numbers with constant headaches and fatigue do not pass. Besides, if a woman systematically avoids or refuses to have sex with her husband, then things are not going well between them, at least in her head, or even put it on with someone else. That is why it is important for every man to love his wife regularly, but not to beat the numbers, but to be a true lover with diligence, manners, attention, gestures, romance. Most men are stumps and do not care at all about women's emotional needs. From there, their wives cool down and start refusing sex. Some men are so lazy that they don't look at their wives. Then some women cheat. Today, most women are quite unhappy in their marriages and relationships, and their husbands don't even fuck them like men. Sorry guys, but the fact that you got to chikii in your marriage is due to you. If you like it again, it's another matter, but lie to yourself that masturbation can be compared to real healthy sex. manners, attention, gestures, romance. Most men are stumps and do not care at all about women's emotional needs. From there, their wives cool down and start refusing sex. Some men are so lazy that they don't look at their wives. Then some women cheat. Today, most women are quite unhappy in their marriages and relationships, and their husbands don't even fuck them like men. Sorry guys, but the fact that you got to chikii in your marriage is due to you. If you like it again, it's another matter, but lie to yourself that masturbation can be compared to real healthy sex. manners, attention, gestures, romance. Most men are stumps and do not care at all about women's emotional needs. From there, their wives cool down and start refusing sex. Some men are so lazy that they don't look at their wives. Then some women cheat. Today, most women are quite unhappy in their marriages and relationships, and their husbands don't even fuck them like men. Sorry guys, but the fact that you got to chikii in your marriage is due to you. If you like it again, it's another matter, but lie to yourself that masturbation can be compared to real healthy sex. Today, most women are quite unhappy in their marriages and relationships, and their husbands don't even fuck them like men. Sorry guys, but the fact that you got to chikii in your marriage is due to you. If you like it again, it's another matter, but lie to yourself that masturbation can be compared to real healthy sex. Today, most women are quite unhappy in their marriages and relationships, and their husbands don't even fuck them like men. Sorry guys, but the fact that you got to chikii in your marriage is due to you. If you like it again, it's another matter, but lie to yourself that masturbation can be compared to real healthy sex.
Hello! Very soon I posted on this site the topic 'Dissatisfied, and he is looking for specific porn actresses'. I share this so as not to explain myself so much. And in this situation, he actually wants me - he calls me a 'dream woman', a 'beloved'. He says he wants variety, but I don't see any action that he wants. I try to do it, but he doesn't give me a chance ... one night I got dressed so I just don't know who would turn me down. And because I know him well, I saw that there would be no sex ... And I changed my clothes and went to bed, it was just clear that he didn't want to - he was asleep, he didn't care. I often approach it in different ways, sometimes orally, although he doesn't do it for me, no matter how much I say I want to. And no, because I can't do it - would he tell me that I'm very good, that I'm a slut, etc. / I've heard it from all my previous sexual partners /? All my former sexual partners have been looking for me for years, and of course - I let them know that I am far from infidelity. I just want everything to be in order in my current, serious, 3-year relationship. And we have lived together from the very beginning. He does not refuse me because he has already emptied in principle. And he is like that - he wants something, but he doesn't give anything, he doesn't even give his consent to make it interesting. And it happens to me every day ... How is this possible? .. I do not feel satisfied very often, because 2 times a week I have little, and because his selfishness is more. I tried all sorts of options - conversations between us, a conversation with a psychologist - he refused. He said yesterday - I'm really selfish, I'll change it - every time it's just words. At most try 1 time, I tell him that it was great and then again ... The same. And in this situation, it makes me very nervous and mainly hurts that I saw that he was looking for specific women. I rarely catch him, but he hurts me every time. To play a video is better than to fantasize with concrete .. It is infidelity! Given that I'm such a woman, and he behaves like that ... I told him I didn't want to forgive all this anymore. I feel limited, and in fact we both want to be together, despite everything. I will give myself to you to read my topic and comments - and I have clarified things there, because it is really a big dilemma for me. And I will sincerely thank you for saying what you think ...? than to fantasize with concrete .. It is infidelity! Given that I'm such a woman, and he behaves like that ... I told him I didn't want to forgive all this anymore. I feel limited, and in fact we both want to be together, despite everything. I will give you to read my topic and comments - and I have clarified things there, because it is really a big dilemma for me. And I will sincerely thank you for saying what you think ...? than to fantasize with concrete .. It is infidelity! Given that I'm such a woman, and he behaves like that ... I told him I didn't want to forgive all this anymore. I feel limited, and in fact we both want to be together, despite everything. I will give you to read my topic and comments - and I have clarified things there, because it is really a big dilemma for me. And I will sincerely thank you for saying what you think ...?
Well, I posted this topic just so we don't dilute yours. Here I emphasize perception in general and exclude "abuse" (understand cases like yours - it does not fulfill its obligations, but self-corrects). You ask me personally - I will tell you my personal opinion and experience. "He doesn't refuse me because he's already emptied in principle. And he's like that ..." Well, I'm not sure. For me personally (and not only) after "this moment" nothing interests me. In a sense - all desire and thoughts on the "topic" evaporate. This is insurmountable! It's not up to him! Once upon a time, when my libido was obviously on another level, it wasn't like that ... Because I'm not selfish, I do the maximum I can before. I like to do cunnilingus, but I finish it with it ... Then - as much as possible. I do it mainly for myself. A little tenderness for the finale, but only that much. I'm there. About the presentation of another ... He just doesn't think so! It's stupid if he tells you himself. I watch porn sometimes, I take care of myself (particle), but in no case is it "at my own expense". It's more because she still has no desire. But she's never caught me before. I do my best not to leave traces. I'm pretty sure she won't like it. That's why I released the topic. I'm pretty sure many women would resent the fact that their men masturbate, even though (as if often intentionally) they keep them dry. Is it possible to instill it in myself? I do my best not to leave traces. I'm pretty sure she won't like it. That's why I released the topic. I'm pretty sure many women would resent the fact that their men masturbate, even though (as if often deliberately) they keep them dry. Is it possible to instill it in myself? I do my best not to leave traces. I'm pretty sure she won't like it. That's why I released the topic. I'm pretty sure many women would resent the fact that their men masturbate, even though (as if often intentionally) they keep them dry. Is it possible to instill it in myself?
I apologize, because it was clear to me that the topic was not for cases like mine, and yet I wrote. First, thank you. I answer you because you end up with a question and it's as if you're expecting an answer ... otherwise I wouldn't be spamming. You may be right that she goes to the bathroom to ejaculate sometimes .. And I'm a young woman who is very liked, very sexual, etc. and such an attitude I had not received. For 3 years I was tired of him, because from the very beginning we had lived together - so he claims / all actions regarding the connection and the relationship were his /. About the fantasies with another you say that it is clear that it is so ... Whether you instill it in yourself, in my opinion, depends on the woman. There are those who deliberately keep their men without sex as a means of punishment, but in others it interferes and I can't imagine at least me. I would never give such a punishment, because it would rather be a punishment for me :).
Why do you complicate things? Masturbation is just another type of sexual practice. My husband does it sometimes and then we joke about how he "dishonored the bathroom", he watches porn every morning with coffee and I guess he also masturbates from time to time because I get up much later and the man doesn't want to wake me up. I also masturbate at least every other day. That doesn't stop us from having a great sex life together. When I say great, I mean really great! It happens that if for some reason I do not get an orgasm for a long time during intercourse, I finish myself while he is watching me. And he himself sometimes prefers this option to himself because he likes to cum on me. Well, if something gives us both pleasure, then it's all right. What infidelities, what five levs are we talking about here?
For 5 leva - no, but for a different perception ... In this line of thought, some people practice anal, strapon, threesomes, swing, etc. As this, of course, is normal for them, since they both like it. Here in this case we are talking about when one does not have the attitude to perceive the sexual unloading of the other to take place without his participation, with "another sexual practice" ... In the circle of jokes, the lady above said that purpose of punishment. So he "does his job" and avoids it ...;)
Last night I was alone while my wife was there. I was somewhat provoked by the topic (reason for self-analysis), partly by the accumulated tension after about a week of abstinence. Was it infidelity? Hmmm. First I have to say that I do not understand men who have a permanent partner and are engaged in needlework regularly. I am often asked to do it too, but I know from my own experience that after that I feel physically and mentally exhausted, and the satisfaction is incomplete and I want to repeat, after which there will be dissatisfaction and even more exhaustion. . It's just that the brain works, but one part of the body is stimulated more at the expense of the others, which leads to some energy imbalance. It's completely different with a partner, even if she serves me by hand, but I can also feel the touch of her skin. That is why I reduce such solitary activities to a maximum of 1-2 times a year. Am I mentally cheating on another? During puberty, I imagined specific women, but now we are so fed up with nudity that a purely anatomical idea can hardly excite me. Rather, I react to fantasies about specific situations, as someone else has said. Usually these situations are either slightly perverted, or on the verge of a taboo, or even ones that I wouldn't want to happen to me in real life. Eg. last night I imagined my wife whimpering with pleasure as another man, whom she was secretly meeting with me, fucked her passionately. Don't think I'm not impressed with other women. On the contrary. I am a connoisseur and I even have sometimes stronger emotional impressions and passions and then it can be said that I am cheating, but this is about women, which have made a more complex impression on me than just a bare physique. On going to waste material because of a typical primary sex doll - never. Ah, now I remembered! The previous one, when I did it alone a few months ago, my wife had fallen asleep tired again and then I picked up a flash drive with erotic photos, which I have taken in the last 10-15 years. Aww, beauty and sex appeal! I couldn't help myself. Ha, now let the ladies say if it was infidelity to get aroused by her, but as 10 years younger :) I couldn't help myself. Ha, now let the ladies say if it was infidelity to get aroused by her, but as 10 years younger :) I couldn't help myself. Ha, now let the ladies say if it was infidelity to get aroused by her, but as 10 years younger :)