I have been in a new job for 3 months. In the old company I spent 3 years, in which only after the first 6 months my salary was raised once and then either the moment was still not suitable (according to the boss), or the company had to get back on its feet. Although the whole environment has always been full of stress and a lot of work, the company has always had revenues, even quite high, as a result of which the bosses showed a high standard. During the time I was in the company, they both changed their cars for new ones. Some people had their salaries raised in stages, but not me, even though I talked to my bosses. I can't complain about the company in terms of opportunities - I gained a lot of experience. There are good colleagues and we complement each other, as I myself have been praised many times for the results achieved, but this has never had a financial impact. After my salary dropped from the prices of goods and services (inflation) and at some point I failed to pay my bills, and always had to compromise on something, I decided to find a new job. I found more money in a new company with the same position. We parted ways with the old company, and the bosses didn't say anything. Now, 3 months later, they call me to go back to a much higher salary, because there was a lot of work and no one to do it. Two of the colleagues at the time had also left and gone abroad. Why doesn't the Bulgarian employer value his people on time, but pretends to be open and then roars that there was no one to work for him? Why are you almost all such idiots? I am now faced with the question of whether to return to my old job or continue in the current company. What would you do in such a situation and did it happen to you? Male of 28
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Don't come back, in general, always look ahead, good luck!
Under absolutely no circumstances, do not return. The question for you must be principled and practical.
It's like going back to your ex ... I wouldn't ...
Bulgarian employers do not understand the basic rule that the most important is human "capital". It is necessary to invest in it, both for the purpose of higher qualification, and hence for higher productivity, as well as with higher pay. I had a similar situation. After 2 years they called me with a pretty good offer - a higher salary, less work / at least physical / and I weighed the pros and cons of my previous job and the previous one and decided to return to the old company.
Years ago, I received an offer to return to my old job. The employer even asked me if I could work for him all my life, and he pretended to be serious. I accepted the offer and after a while he removed me again. A year later they called me again from the company but I refused. A few months passed and they called again, but I refused them again and they no longer call me from this company. My advice is not to go back to your former employer.
Don't make the mistake of coming back, I personally don't think it's worth it.
If you return, like alumni, first they will feel passed because of the big increase, second they will increase at least twice your previous responsibilities, especially since they have a shortage of staff, and to deserve the increase in their eyes. In addition, they will know that you are tied in their handkerchief, because first you will lose a potential new employer, second in the world you will find the whole story strange and frivolous, left - worked a month or two - returned and no one will want to risk you.
Come back, dude, but ask for a 10-20% higher salary than they offer you, and ask for a contract that regulates the growth of your salary. The labor market is nothing more than a market and in this case, it is clear which side is the demand and which is the supply.
It's sad that they didn't evaluate you in time, I wouldn't come back, but money is money, if it's a lot more than you take now, then why not come back, but if it's a little more than now, I wouldn't accept. In the end, everyone decides for themselves.
Don't come back, I did it and I'm sorry.
Of course not! They haven't evaluated you for 3 years, they won't evaluate you in the next 30. Now they are just in trouble, but after a while things can turn around and then your high salary will sting their eyes and they will start wondering how to fuck you. Once they have appreciated the new place as soon as they come, give them a chance and work for them. A company that does not value its staff must be bypassed from afar.
In no case do not return. They will not change. If you come back then inflation will eat away at your money and then they will not raise your salary again. Let them suffer. When you left for the first time, they thought you were a fool, now if you come back they will be sure you are. Be a man, stand up for your principles. Let's stop being all slaves to this country. That's why they're crushing us, because of the drummers who come back. They are left with the impression that the employee is indebted to them, and they themselves are taken seriously.
Don't come back, change is a nice furnace. And I will proudly refuse, if they wanted to keep you, they should have thought earlier. And if someone cheaper or more convenient appears, they will beat your jester.
Use this proposal to negotiate with the new employer.
No, don't come back. Money is not the only factor in choosing a job, although it is important. If there is no one to work for (three have left with you!), And there is a lot of work, calculate how many responsibilities they will burden you with, how much they will make you work and how they will get your salary through your nose. Besides, 11 is right, they are in trouble now, but as time goes on, they will try to prune you if they can or tease you in another way. If there are people who do not value their staff, there is no point in coming back.
DO NOT COME BACK! You will leave the new job to return to the old one. And for what? For some BGN 100 more? And how long do you think they will keep you? They are offended at the moment, and they will fire you as soon as possible. People have said it: "- Do not let the tame to chase the wild"! True, BGN 100 is BGN 100, but wondering when they will kick you out is not a job. I am 39. I started in a car repair shop in 2002. They paid me BGN 10 a day. Gradually I reached 40 a day. I have been 800 a month for 10 years. I had apprentices. They left every year. Now I push myself for the same money. My boss has been chasing him lazily for 5-6 years and he just says price and takes the money. I've been here for 17 years and I'm patient with this ridiculous money.
Lucky ... Some people are wondering how to find a job, and they call you to beg you on your knees :)
I'm number 3 again, one more thing to add - when they tell you that there is work and there is no one and they rely on you, it's a complete mess. At the old job I was this man and for 500 net I was hunched over ...... oh sectarian! You're fine at your new job, make the soup!
I fully understand you, but I want to tell you that employers are like that everywhere. I do not have a working day in BG, and you probably have not worked anywhere else, but our experience in this regard is the same. Human nature is like that. You feel damaged because you are on the other side, but if you were an employer you would probably think differently. The main goal of the employer is to extract maximum added value. This can be done by the customer paying as much as possible or workers receiving as little as possible, most often both. Salary increases scale when you have a lot of staff. It is one thing to increase a person's salary, it is another to increase it by 10-20. The difference becomes noticeable when you think that you can put it in your own pocket and start squeezing. Therefore, the employer increases the salary only if he considers that there is a danger of you leaving and that your replacement with a new person will bring him more losses than if he raises your salary. Apparently at the time they did not think that both events could happen. They may not have been startled when you left, but others have left unexpectedly and are now leaning on you. In your place, I would ask for a 50% increase in what you get now, without hesitation. Whatever called, called. If they only think about how to take advantage of the lack of alternatives for the employee, why don't you take advantage of the fact that they have done the wrong thing and are now in a difficult situation? Business is not a charity, but a struggle of interests and this also applies to the employer-employee relationship. It is best when both parties are confident that their interests coincide under the given conditions. Otherwise, as long as everything goes well,
Do not come back
Stay in the new company! If they haven't thought of raising your salary in 3 years, do you think it will be different now? Yes, you will start with more money, but you will never see a salary increase! And think about it, once your ex-colleagues leave en masse at about the same time, obviously something is not ok. As a cover, they can't find new people and have gone so far as to ask you to return. When looking for former employees, think how bad things are and how desperate they are! So don't! This door is already closed for you, it's time to move on!
Tell them to raise your salary retroactively - that is, to pay you the difference with which they fucked you. And you tell them it's kind of "sorry we didn't pick it up for you." The chance of them doing it is 1%, but it's worth talking about.
If they offer 25% at least above your current salary, for the same hours and obligations, then yes, if not ... Well, it doesn't happen :)
Author Thank you for the positive comments, people. You were very objective and responsive. And a lot of people. I will consider what to do. When we heard each other, the boss said that it was possible to update the salary, compared to my current salary, but we did not specify in what amount. Talk to you soon and keep up the good content. The condition is if I decide to go back to call and then decide what exactly the increase will be. There were 5-6 comments waiting, but they were not published. Apparently they have such funny employers who fuck with their people and then roar that there is no one to work for them. How could one not get involved to write that he regrets his nasty attitude and that he realizes his mistake: D ... they are full of laughter. Good days are already coming for skilled workers, because they can make businessmen laugh. Now is the time for employees to shake hands and set conditions.
In my opinion, these 25% on top of his previous salary to return to a little. I am currently starting in a new place where my salary is exactly 25% higher. In order to return, I will want at least a 75% -100% increase compared to the salary I left
Author, I'm number 11. Do not expect a native employer to understand or admit that he was wrong. 95% of them are the lowest possible crooks, liars and thieves. Again, I advise you not to go back there, because if things turn around, they will get it out of your nose. In general, in domestic companies, but also in international ones, where the management is Bulgarian, anarchy reigns and lazy people, swindlers and ignoramuses are tolerated. Some time ago, for a period of about 3 years, I had a German boss and we got along with him in half a word. Then various Balkan and Bulgarian subjects lined up and it was all over. Now, even for the simplest thing, we meet for months on end for several hours and still nothing happens. While we were working with the German, he told me that if he crossed the threshold of the company and turned off, that is, he did not think about work at all. I wondered then, and I couldn't believe it was possible. Now, however, a few years later, so am I. I don't burden myself with work problems and I don't think about them at all. I just saw that no matter how hard I try and have great results, no one appreciates it, on the contrary - it irritates them and in the end people who do not move a finger all day, receive tens of thousands of levs bonuses. The same thing happened to my colleague, whose salary for the position he held was quite modest, but he still ran the entire department on his back. As a reward, instead of being promoted after his boss left, he was given a complete incompetence, with 5 times higher salary. Well, of course, he couldn't stand it and left. Now his work is "done" by two people who get together more than 2 times more and do not know where they are. Yes, my advice is to stay with your new employer and if your salary doesn't go up after a while, just go to someone else. But never go back.
Author Hello again, people. I'm not really looking for sympathy or anything like that, I'm just curious if you've had similar situations and how you're proceeding. And yet there may be more experienced people than me in this situation. In reality, the Bulgarian employer is a traitor who wants to work for him for no money, if you can on Saturdays and Sundays, on holidays, sign a declaration that you and your wife will not give birth, because it is very scary. You do not deserve leave, you are not a human being and you are not entitled to it. The boss is always right and you have to flatter him. Raising the salary after 6 months. or years later it is superhuman. You have no right to ask about such things ... And the result of all this is ... bitter experienced people leave a company, the boss hires complete incompetents who do nothing and then everyone is to blame ... He it never is.
This is what every Bulgarian employer deserves. I don't think you go back. If they haven't evaluated it in 3 years, don't imagine that they will do it in 3 more years.
The Bulgarian "employer" is like that for the simple reason that he is ... a Bulgarian. We come to the old saying again: "Bai Ganyo just taught the donkey not to eat and it took that he died !!"
The only reason for Bulgarian employers to behave in this way is that they are allowed to. I have so many acquaintances who tolerate all sorts of nonsense, simply because they are afraid of losing their jobs. As long as there is such slavish thinking, they will be bullied and nothing will change.
Hehe. Familiar work. But not in the private sphere, but in the state. I spent almost 8 years in a ministry. I was running, running, giving myself away to the max and what, in the end all the others (with less experience than me) had their salaries hit over BGN 2,000 at that time, and I was paying BGN 1,300. And I was fed up. There is an article in the Civil Servant Act that by mutual consent you can leave from today to tomorrow. I wrote my application, gave it to my immediate supervisor to sign. He looked at me like he was overwhelmed, but why, but how, etc. He painted. I wear it in the kit of Ch. secretary, I'm leaving him. After a while they call me to the resort. Ch. secretary sings the same song, but why, but how. Well, because colleagues take BGN 1,000 more than my salary, and according to experience and assessments, they can't step on my little finger. Well, it was true that mine was not one of the high ones, but for now nothing could be done. Possibly next year. Well, we listened to them. If I found something else, no, I didn't. I will look for myself. I insert it at the beginning. kit of the Minister. After a while, they call me from there. Let's do the same song again. The same answer. But if I had thought. I have nothing to think about. I've already invented it. And I left. I was looking for a job for 2 months, I applied for a competition. I started working. Lower than my previous salary. Exactly in the third month, they evaluated what I could do and promoted me, making my salary double the previous one. So, I work and some time ago I got a call from Ch. secretary of my former office. Let's see each other. Not bad. We saw each other. I ask him about the occasion. Well, the director of my former directorate had left, and now it was my time to take his place. Hahaha. Noooo, thanks for the wonderful offer, but I have a job and I like it. But they would give me BGN 3,200. No, thank you. Now with DMS I earn even more. Well, in that spirit. Never go back to old employers. They will use you, treat you as if they did you a favor and you will feel like used wipes.
And I ... that's what happened. Some colleagues have had their salaries raised, I am not among them. Under the boss, I have a boss from whom I work much more and get better results, but this remains unnoticed. Now I will wait until January and look for a new job. I can't go on anymore. The fucking thing in this case is that I'm having intrigues behind my back and I'm losing out, but in the end things fall into place. I'm sick. I don't care anymore.
Don't be sorry if other former colleagues leave en masse, so things are not good in your previous job. Going forward does not go back!
Up to 32 Therefore you must be a constant thorn in their side. Next time, ask EXACTLY what and how to do it so you know EXACTLY when and by how much you can expect a raise. If there is "mii shi visible", then you can not hope for anything.
The author Instead of appreciating the few other people willing to work, the native Ganyo businessman wonders how to fuck them. These people don't think about it at all ...