Hi, I want to make it clear that I do not want to offend anyone. I know that there are Turks who visit the site and please without anger. I met a boy on the Internet and we want to see each other. Yes, but when I learned where it came from, I had doubts about its origin, and it's awkward to ask. When we "met" he told me that he lived in Plovdiv. He has a Bulgarian name, he is white, beautiful, good, educated. It turned out, however, that he was from Madan, but lived in Plovdiv. I am worried that he is not a Turk, because I am aware that there are at least 80-90% Turks in his town. I have no objections to them, don't get me wrong, but I prefer him to be Bulgarian. How do I ask him more around It's hard for me to believe that such a nice, white, good boy can't find a girlfriend in such a big city. I'm from a small town ... The only option left is to have some hidden flaws ... Please give me advice.
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You are mistaken - there are only 5% Turks in Madan. But a significant part are Pomaks. He is much more likely to be a Pomak than a Turk. And yet we are all human.
I do not recommend pomak.
And I do not recommend a Bulgarian to the Pomaks.
Well, big deal even if he's a Turk. Much more important is how you feel about it. If by "hidden flaws" you mean that it may be of a different origin from the Bulgarian one, I'm sorry, but you are very narrow-minded. Maybe because you're from a small town. M 21, Bulgarian (because it is essential for you)
You seem to be from a small town, although that's not the problem, the problem is my little worldview.
Pff, it's best to free him from your presence, no one deserves such treatment. That is, you tend to reject a "nice, smart, good boy" because of his background? Am I getting it right? And, if so. From what century have you stumbled here with these ancient prejudices? There are 2 types of people in this world - good and bad. I recommend you watch a movie "My name is Khan and I'm not a terrorist", see the hell of your prejudices, see what poor little souls like you do to good, smart people of different backgrounds. You are even afraid to say Muslim. What Turks in Madan ?! There are your people - pure white Bulgarian Muslims. Get to read, intelligent people find it difficult to "worry" about good and smart people. They read this and that about world history and the lamp clicks that there have been wars everywhere, and that this is a natural course of history. I know that there are racists who visit the site and I want to ask them to get angry with me and show up so that the author can see how cool her peers are.
Well, a few offended people immediately lined up, and although I didn't say anything bad, they started throwing mud at me. Not that I didn't expect it ... I don't mind any ethnic group, but with a few ethnic groups I would like to have a close relationship. You are narrow-minded, peasants and limited because you distort my words. But not everyone is as bad as you, don't judge others by yourself. :) The author
He went hunting for a Bulgarian woman.
We are 2020, we have all mixed a long time ago. He is a Bulgarian with a passport, he is a good person, what more do you care. My experience on the subject with the Pomaks and the Turks: My boyfriend and I had been together for 3 years when I met his grandmother and found out that the woman had a Turkish name. At first I was surprised. He had never told me that his grandmother was Turkish. I asked him why. It turned out that he did not mention it, not because he was ashamed, but simply because it was not mentioned. He just doesn't see it as something super scandalous or fundamental to our relationship. It turned out that part of his family were Turks / Pomaks, others were Bulgarians. Normal for the city he comes from. And now comes the conclusion. Do you think this discovery of mine has changed anything? Of course not.
She walked around Turkey, but not Anatolia, and look what the Turks are like first, and then she wonders. Secondly, the Pomaks are Turks, as much as I am Slavi Trifonov's wife. Thirdly, with such films without even seeing anyone ... the person does not like what films he will get into. Brother.
My mother is Turkish, my father is Pomak. I grew up in a village where there are Pomaks, Turks, Bulgarians, Tatars and Gypsies. Mixed marriages have long been commonplace there. We've been playing with everything since we were little, and we never knew it mattered. When I went to high school in a nearby town, it was only then that I realized that there was such a thing as ethnic prejudice. It was hellishly weird for someone to judge me just because I was someone. Honestly, I was offended and even harassed for it. But what I mean is that these are all just prejudices. We all eat Bulgarian bread, we were born here, we grew up here, our homes and relatives are here, our whole life is here. In my village to this day there is understanding, mixed marriages, celebrating all the holidays together. On Eid, Muslims drink mekici, candy, and angelic Christians, with the Christians, the Muslims are beaten with Easter eggs. All these divisions are so stupid. If you love each other, what does it matter? I myself had a serious relationship with a Bulgarian woman, it was never a problem who was what. Then it happened that I married a Turkish woman, I did not choose her for that, I fell in love. My child is 8. I didn't even mention to him that there is such a thing as ethnicities. There are also Turks in their class, the teacher told them that they are all Bulgarians since they were born in Bulgaria. I only once tried to explain to my child that there are people of different origins in Bulgaria. She said "if I was born in Bulgaria, then I am Bulgarian" and I never raised the issue again. This is how it is determined, I accept her decision, even though she is 8. At home we speak Bulgarian, she doesn't know any Turkish. In general, things have become quite depersonalized and I see no point in dividing. Even religions are not what they were for our grandparents. And this reason for division is gone. Come to think of it, one of my neighbors is a Pomak, he married a Bulgarian woman, a wonderful family and the best people I know. My other Pomak neighbor, married a Turkish woman, opposite my neighbor a Tatar mother and a Turkish father, married a Bulgarian, next to her my neighbor a Tatar mother and a Pomak father married a Turkish woman. Well, everyone is happy, they have children, they understand each other, they have studied, they have professions, they are moving forward. My father has 3 children - they are Pomaks. He is married to a Turk, one of his sisters to a Bulgarian, the other to a Pomak. No one complained and everyone has been together for 30-40 years. one of my neighbors is a pomak, he married a Bulgarian woman, a wonderful family and the best people I know. My other Pomak neighbor, married a Turkish woman, opposite my neighbor a Tatar mother and a Turkish father, married a Bulgarian, next to her my neighbor a Tatar mother and a Pomak father married a Turkish woman. Well, everyone is happy, they have children, they understand each other, they have studied, they have professions, they are moving forward. My father has 3 children - they are Pomaks. He is married to a Turk, one of his sisters to a Bulgarian, the other to a Pomak. No one complained and everyone has been together for 30-40 years. one of my neighbors is a pomak, he married a Bulgarian woman, a wonderful family and the best people I know. My other Pomak neighbor, married a Turkish woman, opposite my neighbor a Tatar mother and a Turkish father, married a Bulgarian, next to her my neighbor a Tatar mother and a Pomak father married a Turkish woman. Well, everyone is happy, they have children, they understand each other, they have studied, they have professions, they are moving forward. My father has 3 children - they are Pomaks. He is married to a Turk, one of his sisters to a Bulgarian, the other to a Pomak. No one complained and everyone has been together for 30-40 years. they understand each other, they have studied, they have professions, they are moving forward. My father has 3 children - they are Pomaks. He is married to a Turk, one of his sisters to a Bulgarian, the other to a Pomak. No one complained and everyone has been together for 30-40 years. they understand each other, they have studied, they have professions, they are moving forward. My father has 3 children - they are Pomaks. He is married to a Turk, one of his sisters to a Bulgarian, the other to a Pomak. No one complained and everyone has been together for 30-40 years.
To brother. What do you mind Pomaks. They are not Turks but have adopted the Turkish religion
Author, because of people like you there is still a division of ethnicities and we Turks and Pomaks feel discriminated against. You do not insult the Turks, but otherwise you choose your people and, if possible, further away from the Turks. Why? How would a Turk differ from a Bulgarian? If you think that the Turks want our partner to convert to Islam, you are wrong. If you think our culture is different, that's not true either. We were born in Bulgaria and just as you studied Bulgarian history in a Bulgarian school, so do we. We celebrate all the holidays with you and goosebumps on "Mila Rodino", because this is our home. Unfortunately, not a small part of the Turks are forced to hide their origins so as not to be divided and not to feel different and superfluous. Tighten up! If the boy is good, polite, beautiful and intelligent, what else do you want? Even so, owning one is still beyond the reach of the average person.
Author, it is best to ask yourself, instead of writing various guesses, versions and hypotheses here. You can ask him if he is religious and what religion he professes. There is nothing embarrassing and embarrassing about knowing exactly who you are dating.
18, may have judged that YOU are not for a family, not Bulgarian women in general. A person always has a good opinion of himself and it is difficult for him to accept that he has been rejected because of himself and usually looks for another culprit. Because it's pomak, you're left with that impression, because I have other impressions, namely a lot of mixed marriages lately. If he was a Bulgarian, would you still conclude that if he doesn't want you for a family, then he doesn't want a Bulgarian at all? If you had learned things between you, he would have loved you and his last concern would have been what you are, believe me. Because of people like you, stereotypes start and unnecessary tension is created. Here you say "all Pomaks are what you are, because one rejected me", but again I ask you, if you were a Bulgarian, what would you say?
Exactly that we are 2020, everyone has the right only to decide which partner to choose. There is no point in attacking the author for not wanting a Turk. It's not just about what he looks like and what he looks like. Being with a person of another religion also means coming to terms with the customs, traditions and overall lifestyle of the other person and finding a way to combine. And some people just don't want such puzzles.
13, who said I minded anyone at all? It's just that the Pomaks are not Turks. Religion has nothing to do. By the same logic, Muhammad Ali is a Turk, eh? Brother.
I don't understand why the moderators deleted my comment. 19, I don't think he read my comment in detail, because I wrote in it that I'm not just talking about myself. Young Pomaks generally talk like that about Bulgarian women. Not one, not two, but many of them. And I think pretending to be nice and good doesn't always play a good role. I don't see why young Bulgarian women shouldn't be warned that they talk about us like that. To pass us in bed, and pomaks are marriage. I do not find my opinion either racist or an opinion specific to my case alone, I have attended such conversations many times. And if Pomaks read here and take offense: don't pretend to be pinched, these things are known. I do not deny that there are marriages between Bulgarians and Pomaks, but they are mostly such if they are branches together in the community.
24, this is my opinion of many Bulgarians - that Bulgarian women are not suitable for a family. If you want, see even many of the comments on this site. Does this mean that you will not marry Bulgarians either?
What do you attack the girl, every woman has the right to have preferences about the men in her life. I also do not mind anyone, but I would not go out on a date with anyone. Author, ask him directly. If he is Bulgarian he will not be affected.
You Bulgarians, especially the Madis, seem to be very attached to customs, religion and traditions. Turks born in Bulgaria are also so different ...
Number 14 what is this description for the Turks? We don't look like that at all, just nonsense. We are neither short nor black with flattened heads ... WE ARE NOT GYPSIES !!! You can't tell a person by his appearance whether he is Bulgarian or Turkish ...
You get angry, but you really sound like a narrow-minded person. You haven't seen each other yet, and you're confused as if he proposed to you. "The only option left is to have some hidden flaws" - and you probably have no flaws?
You start by not insulting, and a little further down you call its origin a flaw. Isn't that offensive? Nobody said to marry a Pomak or a Turk, but to call it a flaw is insulting. If a Turk had written that being a Bulgarian is a "disadvantage", you would have eaten it with rags by now.
31, I don't seem to be a little angry, even more so at unknown "heroes". Those of you who are angry are evident in your sloppy comments, but I'm not at all surprised. Whoever carries what he has in his soul, shows it outside. I just didn't understand why I hurt you so much, given that I didn't say anything bad about anyone. It is interesting how, always in all topics of women, you still twist and distort her words to spew your filth and malice to the bottom. And this is in every topic written by a girl / woman. You cover all topics, without exception. I've been following the site for a long time. Regarding the boy, the main character in my topic, I wrote about "hidden flaws" because we have known each other for a long time and it is a bit strange that at first glance such a beautiful and good girl is still alone, but lives in a place where he could easily be find a girlfriend (hypothetically). You asked what he looked like - dark brown or black hair, brown eyes, quite tall, slender, white. The author
I don't know why you are attacking the author. Everyone decides for himself what kind of person to commit to. Yes, the Turks and the Pomaks in Bulgaria are not some fanatics like in Arabia, but there are still some cultural and religious differences. And if she doesn't agree with them, why waste her and his time?
Until 28 I didn't say it in order to offend anyone. The Turks I've seen look exactly like that, what am I to blame? There is no difference in appearance between Bulgarians and Turks only in Ludogorie. Those from the Kardzhali region are completely different!
Ask him directly what he is like, if something comes up then he is so smart.
Number 14 is an example of an unconsciously prejudiced person. How come all the Turks she has seen are short, I don't know exactly what eyes, what heads and ... This is, to put it mildly, funny and frivolous. Would a normal person seriously believe that any ethnic group in the world has a specific height, eyes, hair, head without any variety?
The girl from number 18 is right! I am left with the same impression of the Pomaks. Once I was having coffee with a fellow Pomak woman and an acquaintance of hers (again Pomak) sat down with us and started making extremely ugly hints to me, telling me some nonsense and this is a person I just met, so that's enough you wrote that the problem is in us women. There are no Turks in my area, but I have not heard good things about them either. Here a Turk wrote that the Turks had to hide their origins. So far I have not met a single Turkish woman who hides it, only men. Why?
39, once you've "heard" they're bad, that's for sure. There are no Turks in your area, but in your comment number 14 you know that they are all short and with flattened heads. And since ONE pomak was rude, definitely none of them are worth it. It's funny already.
The Pomaks are Islamized Bulgarians. Among them there are both Bulgarian and Turkish / Arabic names. They speak Bulgarian and have Bulgarian roots. These are the facts and results of genetics. Now for your man - the fact that he does not have a girlfriend can be due to many things - he is shy, finds it difficult to like a girl, is gay, has no self-confidence because he comes from a small town and has no financial means, can not "offer" , has a small penis and avoids intimacy, is asexual, etc. How to ask him? Just pay attention to what holidays you celebrate - Easter, Christmas, Name Day, Zagovezni. If you still don't understand, just ask him to tell you about Madan, his relatives, and so on. Carefully research his profiles on social networks, there may also be some info. Of course, it's your choice what kind of person you're going to bond with, even if you only want a Bulgarian / gypsy / from the Moon, etc. AGAIN is your choice, do not pay attention to the comments. One must fully accept the person next to him and having criteria that he does not meet and with which you do not compromise is your personal job. You are also right to have one thing in mind, so people have not been in a hurry to get seriously involved for a long time - it will take you at least 3 years to study a person's character more or less if you are in constant contact with him and have seen him in all situations. However, nothing prevents you from going out a few times and I guess you will understand things about its origin. to which he does not respond and with which you do not compromise is your personal business. You are also right to have one thing in mind, so people have not been in a hurry to get seriously engaged for a long time - it will take you at least 3 years to study a person's character more or less if you are in constant contact with him and have seen him in all situations. However, nothing prevents you from going out a few times and I guess you will understand things about its origin. to which it does not respond and with which you do not compromise is your personal business. You are also right to have one thing in mind, so people have not been in a hurry to get seriously involved for a long time - it will take you at least 3 years to study a person's character more or less if you are in constant contact with him and have seen him in all situations. However, nothing prevents you from going out a few times and I guess you will understand things about its origin.
Numbers 18 and 19, maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle. Many Bulgarians also have the idea "just to get you in bed", I don't know if this is exactly an ethnic characteristic. I am married to a Turk and our original idea was just to go to bed because he was leaving for Germany soon. It's just that we haven't been separated for 10 years, we left together, we came back, we already have children. Before, I myself suffered from prejudice, but the Turks. Tell you what, it's not nice. Fortunately, my husband's parents are intelligent people, my father-in-law is a great person, I named my son Yuksel. However, this was not the case with the other part of the family, who were deported to Turkey in 1989. Sometimes in the company of a few glasses, I would be asked for an explanation for this violence. Let me be asked why WE wanted to change their names. To be told sinister stories of death, violence, arrests, Belene, as if I were responsible, as if I knew the answers to their questions. Some people do not have good memories of Bulgaria, although they were born in it. When I met someone and he found out that I was Bulgarian, he started looking at my husband's parents with regret. "The important thing is to love each other" in a funeral tone, as if they had sacrificed this man. Many Turks in Bulgaria have also insulted Bulgarians, and almost everyone has been a victim of racism. My husband's grandfather didn't even want to meet me and he was in Belene because he refused to change his name. Bulgarian women, you only love next to the store, he said. I already have many Turkish acquaintances, my husband is a man with many friends. There really is what Number 18 says, but it's more a result of that they are worried about their families, how the Bulgarian woman will be received. And to take that risk, they must have really decided it's worth it. And there are weak-willed men of all ethnicities. I hate when they hide their relationship with the Bulgarian woman in secret, my husband's closest friend has been doing it for years and I feel sorry for his beautiful wife. However, if the couple is healthy, experiences these prejudices, people get to know each other and accept each other, forget about the ethnicity in their daily lives. These initial moods in Turkey did not stop me from going, in fact I love to travel there and over time people liked me, I would say that they are happy to be part of the family and even brag about my success, which makes me very happy. The same thing happened to my husband, of course. I am close with my grandfather and we heard each other often, when I fell in love with my husband I was excluded from everything else. My grandfather took me to interrogate my mother and she told him "She is very much in love, lost, her smile never goes down. We met, she came to give me flowers for her birthday. The boy is good, blond, blue-eyed, 2 m tall and a doctor. " And when he found out ... "Good boy - he was a Turk, he was a doctor - he was a dentist." Ah, now brag to your son-in-law. This is how it happens, you have very little to understand how equal we are - human beings. That's why I'm on fire anyway, because I had forgotten these ethnic divisions, they no longer exist for me, as well as for my relatives, and I'm just surprised to hear something like that. For me, it's a decade of history and I kept thinking that things had changed in 10 years. When I read something like this, I am afraid of my son Yuksel, although I have the example of his father that when you are a nice person, others have no choice but to like you. I hope she never comes across a girl like the Author and is never ashamed of her name. I have decided, when he is old enough, to tell him that it is he who protects him and keeps such people aside, that I have to choose quality people carefully, and he has a name that makes it even easier.
43, is not true. I've heard that the Turks don't get up, you can't convince me.
43, of 18. Thank you for your sincere and reasoned comment. I wish there were more such people on the site, not to offend each other. I am glad that you have looked at the issue from several sides - as a Bulgarian, as a Turk's wife and the mother of a child of mixed origin.
What if he was German?
Author, why don't you talk to this good, smart, etc. boy? About religion, about life, about the attitude towards parents. What they say is an opinion or an order. In general, what he thinks about the place of women. How many children is normal to have a couple. How best to be brought up. You can describe to him a fanistic friend of yours ... And watch him react.
Up to 46 Hmmm ... It depends on which part it is. People outside think that there is no west / east anymore, but that's not true. In West Germany, people are better.
Until 37 If it has happened to you several times, they make fun of you because of your origin, you will sing another song ...
Did number 36 travel all over Bulgaria? And you have 100% researched what the Turks look like. I am from Veliko Tarnovo. I, my family, my relatives, the Turks I know, don't look like that at all. We are white, we are of normal average height and we do not have "flattened" heads. Come on, please don't put all Turks under a common denominator.
I'm number 50 again. Hey moderators, I'm very happy with how you cut out my comment. I finished with "You Bulgarians, it's as if you are very similar and you are all nice, better." Did I say something wrong? Number 14 thinks that all Turks are short and black. And do you approve of that? Aren't there short or dark-skinned Bulgarians? Also, they must all be of the same character ... A person's appearance is individual and different, depending on the genes, not the nationality. While the rest depends on how they raise your parents. And the Turks are not like that, the Greeks are like that ... Try to get to know the people a little more, it doesn't hurt that much. You will be surprised to find out how many of your acquaintances with Bulgarian names actually have Turkish roots. And please, when will you stop having anything against the Turks? In this corrupt country, on the brink of poverty, are we your problem We have no guilt for Turkish slavery. We were born here like you and we have no intention of living in Turkey because it is not our homeland. Q. I now have little doubt that the moderators will approve of my comment.
Up to 43! I am happy for your happiness and for your family! I know two Turkish girls, young women already, 25 years old! Let me not tell you what kind of fidelity is in question and how they protect themselves with whom they will sleep! THERE IS NO DEPRESSION WITH THEM! And they live in big cities ... How will the Turks look at the modern Bulgarian with good eyes? She is really only allowed to walk in the shops and jump from branch to branch! Author, you will still encounter real life! Rather, they (the Turks) will think of you as a scumbag and YOU have to prove that you are a commodity, not a MUSLIM MAN! It is not a problem for a man to have had many wives before you and this does not take away from his dignity! And whether you will be another number of a man does not depend on the ethnicity! You think very stupidly! Again to 43 - you only confirm my statement about the depraved character of the Bulgarian woman! You have been with your husband for so many years and you sound absolutely loyal to him! As you can see, there are a lot of topics about Bulgarian women who want to meet someone else shortly after they have given birth ... Turkish families are much healthier ... obviously happier! I wish you not to lose your love for each other in the future! Bulgarian 30
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53 - You from 2 Turks do not draw a conclusion for all. I live in an area with many Turks and I tell you that there are all kinds of them. One neighbor, for example, her husband broke her from a fight and cheated again, another with 2 children ran away from home, lived for half a year with someone, then returned home with a roar ... It's all about the individual, not the ethnicity.
Number 53, I'm not that disappointed with your comment and I understand why you wrote it. But I know a lot of Turks and most of them are not different from the Bulgarians. There are many good and worthy Bulgarian women, just the worthy one will not write a story in which to brag that she is like that. And bad examples as such do not realize their actions as mistakes and are not ashamed to show their stupidity. And it is normal for them to be similar, the society in which we live is the same, unlike the representatives of other minorities with whom we live not in a different society, but in a different world.
to 50: I, especially in Tarnovo (villages), the Turks I know are quite dark-skinned. Razgrad observations are for me an idea for ants, Momchilgrad are white, etc. etc. all this is subjective and depends a lot from place to place. Not bad, colorful world. and according to the Bulgarians, what is dark is from the Roma minority. and there are 'white' Roma. There are also Bulgarians like Peyo Yavorov ... there is a palette of colors.
My cousin is married to a Turk. No difference in mentality or anything. Their child is wonderful, they are a very decent family. But there are peculiarities everywhere and this is not determined by the origin. Everyone, but each case is individual. A very close friend of mine with a child has a Turkish friend, but when I look at him, he is a pure Bulgarian. How many Bulgarian citizens think they are Turks, when in fact they are pure Bulgarians.
53 I, of all the Turks I know, such, "I will guard myself for the prince" ... do not see. It's up to the person. I don't think it's appropriate to talk about how some are like that and others are like that. There are Bulgarians who do not drink, there are Turks who drink. There are Bulgarian women who marry for money and there are such Turks. We are all human, and each has his own character, values and worldview. I do not agree with the description of the "modern Bulgarian"
Great n 67! You BULGARIANS have to prove themselves! And there is a reason! We all see what's going on ... What did I write this for? And you jumped right away. And is there anything to protect - honor, morality? Or just spray words .... from 53
Number 60 Well, I say what I am and my circle of acquaintances is white. As long as you argued, it was as if you were investigating which Turk, which Bulgarian from all over Bulgaria. I am saying that there are many "Bulgarians" who hide their Turkish origin. Most Turks are white. The end.