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We Humans Are Primitive

By mathew_mia September 07, 2020 8 answers Last updated September 07, 2020

Hello! I am launching a topic, expecting an interesting discussion that will be useful during the minutes of free time that we can steal. Leaving aside personal problems, do you sometimes think about humanity, what awaits us, etc.? Don't you think that we are very primitive in general? For example, many people achieve personal success through fraud, are corrupt, and believe that happiness consists only in having power and being financially secure. And what exactly is the value of money? What is the difference between having 1 million and 2 million? I always thought that every item on the market should have a price cap. For example, one TV set cannot cost 50,000 and another 300. Or, for example, the underwear of a famous person can be auctioned for millions, and an ordinary underwear in the store can cost 5 leva. Really, if you have a lot of money, at some point their value is lost, because you do not buy something whose price is relative to the quality of the product. What a person needs, in my opinion, is to have a nice home, family, to be able to travel, to have a car, bicycles for children, etc., and most of all a vocation. Isn't it more important to know that we are doing something of value, and both working to earn a good income and what we do is for the benefit of others? I wonder where these vices come from, this world revolves around money, we create our own reality, and I wonder how many of these people are actually happy (those who have not discovered the meaning of vocation). Separately, there are other mediocre people who prefer to stand and do nothing. They, in turn, why do they do it How can you be more interested in watching movies all day instead of discovering things? I'm not saying I don't watch movies. On the contrary, I like to rest, rest for me is also a kind of parasitism, and I think that everyone needs it to rest their brain cells, but then comes the responsibility.

These are my arguments for calling people primitive, elementary. We are interested in some pleasures that do not really exist. Yes, if you have a yacht and everything you want, you 'enjoy', but it's not a real pleasure, it's not a real feeling. Oh, no doubt I will be happy to ride a yacht, but it's not about the experience itself, it's about the fact that it's not real when you're not real - because if you know you bought it thanks to your own work, not through fraud, you will enjoy it, that you have put so much effort, and that you have such qualities as to allow you this luxury. So by that logic, if all people were honest, the competition would be greater. because some people have more potential than others and talent. But no one is harmed, because everyone works what he can and gets what he deserves. I don't know, it's hard for me to imagine what the world would be like this way. And yet we have arranged it in such a way that we need workers (all possible jobs where hard, manual labor is required). Maybe in the future, when these activities (if) are performed by machines, maybe then people can only engage in intellectual labor. That is, I come to the point that we are primitive, because for our whole system to work, there must be some who work with the brain and others with the arms and legs. It is no coincidence that parents often tell their children to study so that they do not work later (which means to realize themselves so that they do not work physically). This whole system is also a kind of obstacle to realizing our potential (to think beyond what is around us). For 12 years a person goes to school without learning how to discover something on his own, the thought is not provoked to use this information in any other way. I exclude from this summary the few scientists who somehow succeed despite the system. Aren't we all set up in the same way, why can one and another can't? My theory is that everyone can learn something to a greater or lesser degree, but satisfactorily. Sure, everyone is better in one area than another, but if he directs his efforts to where he is good, he can work miracles. That way we could be more developed than we are now. Why are we primitive?

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emily_sahenz answered · September 07, 2020

   I think it's a waste of time to think about what people (others) were like. No one can change other people, but it is in his power to determine his goals, dreams, occupations, worldview and environment (the people around him). Everyone is a cosmos in itself and has their own understandings. For example, I am an economist and your reasoning about price caps and especially the examples of goods also seems to me quite flat and primitive (pants and TV are not essential goods, for example), but I can't say that you yourself are such. / ava, because you are 100% better / ra in another field / and in which I do not waste time to start primitive discussions, for example. Tip - focus on your field, your life, family, loved ones, circle of friends, environment, career, plans, dreams and do not waste time thinking about issues, of which 1. you don't understand 2. even if you understand you can't decide (it's not in your power to change humanity) Instead of bothering with unfounded "discussions", get up early tomorrow and instead of soaking in front of the computer for example, enjoy the day and if so you want not to be flat and primitive, catch and do at least 1 good deed for another person / nature / animal, which will be a greater contribution to humanity / world / planet / space than this primitive discussion. Respect others to be respected! Live your life! Success w30 which will be a greater contribution to humanity / the world / planet / space than this primitive discussion. Respect others to be respected! Live your life! Success w30 which will be a greater contribution to humanity / the world / planet / space than this primitive discussion. Respect others to be respected! Live your life! Success w30

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jael7 answered · September 07, 2020

   Absolutely agree with 1. You do not care how others live and what they strive for, as long as they violate your rights. PS: Arnold Schwarzenegger: Money doesn't make you happy. I have $ 50 million now, but I was just as happy when I had $ 48 million.

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ellesseuk answered · September 07, 2020

   I am of a different opinion from the author. I do not see anything primitive in the prices of goods and I do not think that they should have a ceiling. Goods such as TVs, etc. are different in size, quality and novelty in the models, and such goods as the pants of a famous person cost as much as the customer is willing to pay. The client who bought the pants of a famous person does not buy them in order to wear them, but to have them for cultural value, like the paintings of famous artists. Comparing the goods by object is like comparing the drawing of your toilet paper with the drawing of Michelangelo. Not every yacht owner is a fraud. But even if you are a fraud on such a scale that buying a yacht requires a lot of intellectual work. I accept that the fraudster has put so much effort, and has such qualities that allow him this luxury. I don't think the liar is guilty, for the simple man has fallen for his lie. The simple man is guilty of allowing himself to be so simple as to be deceived. The system is not to blame for simplicity, and scientists and commoners are offered the same education for 12 years. The smart do not develop "despite" the system but according to the system, the simple remain without knowledge and ability, because they do not want to develop despite attending school. We are all arranged in the same way biologically, but mentally we are as different as the TVs of BGN 50,000 and BGN 300 are different. People who have not become scientists and those who do not work intellectual work are brought up by such parents / teachers who have had other understandings of life. The people around the young person greatly influence his development as a person. We cannot positively influence the children of all alcoholics, drug addicts, the mentally unstable or the Roma. For example, Roma children are born with the same intellectual baggage as any newborn Bulgarian, but grow up in a society that teaches them a different way of understanding the world. I think you, author, think quite primitively, thinking that those who watched movies or others who did nothing were some kind of parasitism. This is not true at all, by this logic a scientist has been working on something scientific for 20 years and has not found the purpose of his work, he has also been idle, he is also parasitic, right? The psychologist who listens to his clients is also inactive and therefore parasitic. If the inactive people are alive, then someone has been found to feed them, they are doing something for that someone to feed them. Even if these idle people only stay as pets in the home of the one who feeds them, they give him love and take care of his mood, calmness, mental rest, he will go to work tomorrow calm and ready to earn enough to feed and you are him and the "idler". Create a non-primitive environment around you and let people be what they want to be.

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driesmertens answered · September 07, 2020

   These are just thoughts that do not grow into deeds or anything to prove yourself. According to everyone, the most important thing is to have a home, children and family, but in practice this is not the case. Everyone has become a materialist, an intriguer and an individual. People do not have time to "discover" some things and spend their vacation in a proper way. You are in Bulgaria! Here people can barely afford to spend the night for more than 5 days in a hotel in the summer, and you tell me about yachts and nonsense .. What you are talking about is only possible abroad, because there people have many more opportunities.If you have decided to go on a journey with a clear goal to look for or create something, just here is not the place.No one here will pay attention to you. People don't have time or money, they don't even have enough ... and what's left for them to spend on some entertainment outside the ordinary and hectic lifestyle they lead. I am outraged that all the doors are closed for us ... We are probably 100 years behind the foreigners.

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adammalyszofficial answered · September 07, 2020

   Author, I congratulate you for thinking about these things, because very few people do it and unfortunately this has been the case since the very distant past. I do not agree very much with the price ceilings (but yes, there are definitely abuses in the definition of commodity prices). And it is also my dream for all people to do only intellectual work: "Maybe in the future, when these activities (if) are done by machines, maybe then people can only do intellectual work." - and I think that's the solution. But hopefully positive and thinking people will become the majority, because otherwise there will be no positive outcome for our humanity. "This whole system is also a kind of obstacle to realizing our potential (to think beyond what is around us). 12 years a person goes to school, without learning how to discover something on its own, the thought is not provoked to use this information in any other way. I exclude from this summary the few scientists who somehow succeed despite the system. "- I also 100% agree with that. I thought so as a student." Why are we primitive? "- If you want to read" Fucking the Devil "- authored by Napoleon Hill. In this book he reflected on this, for which we in 1938. I wish you one day to be able to realize yourself exactly as you dream, as you wish.Good luck! Woman, 26 years old.

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babhieemaii answered · September 08, 2020

   You are also primitive, without realizing it, you want children, a home, a car, bicycles, a nice home, travel. When you receive them, your boring life, work, home, some other excursion, vacation and the same ... closed cycle-gray life will begin. You will not achieve anything more than other "primitive" people.

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littlecandyxs answered · September 08, 2020

   From the avorka - Thanks for the comments! From your comments, I first learned that the examples I have given are only misleading and may not support what I wanted to say as a position. I really shouldn't have gotten involved in areas where I have no knowledge such as the price ceiling, etc. The main thing I wanted to share was something else - that we are limited and primitive. We, people. Our activities. It is not known whether there is a solution or not. My thesis was that in order to be more sublime, we need to understand that we need to improve so that we do not have to live in everyday life, but so that we humans can do something more than that. Not to be influenced by any vices that drink our energy. I do not agree that I do not care how others live. This is limited thinking for me. We humans don't realize (some) that we are one, and we build this world together (or destroy it). If we think this way - if everyone looks at themselves, nothing will work. Therefore, I believe that my responsibility is not just to look after myself (but to make a small contribution to people) and I think that others should strive for that as well. And to add that the fact that in the topic I did not mention anything about my personal life, what I do, where I live, etc., (From 5: '' People do not have time to 'discover' some things and spend their holidays in a proper way. ''), does not mean that these thoughts of mine are floating in the air. And what does it mean not to have time .... everyone has the same time on this earth ... new, but no matter how many times it is said, it obviously cannot be realized if one does not reach it alone,

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angelofit answered · September 08, 2020

   Author, we humans are as exalted as the family / as children /, the school / as students /, in the future / as adults / the surrounding society allows us. Just like in the forest, if people are plants, there is no way a useful plant can grow in the forest from tall "primitive / barren" trees. However, at the moment when there is a gap, a meadow, where at least 10 * 10 meters there are no primitive trees, useful herbs begin to develop. My view of society works on the same logic, there is no way in a Roma primary school to develop a child from which to become a scientist. Even among the first-graders there is quality material on it is not allowed to sprout, but is trampled in the first months. When, as a child and later, as an adult, you are surrounded by people who think only of material things and consider the spiritual to be dumb, funny and idiotic there is no way to develop spiritual thinking. Society interferes. See "Maslow's Pyramid of Needs." If the needs of a lower level are not met, one cannot move to the needs of a higher level. The society around us prevents us from satisfying the needs of the lower levels, so it is rare to meet a person who has managed to reach a spiritual level. We have allowed in the schools of all Bulgaria to have disrespect for teachers, for the Kalpazans to rule, there is no possibility for our children to be properly educated, most of them go to school to learn the simple things that the Kalpazans do in class. From there, with low education, our children grow into people who cannot work highly skilled work and earn enough money to satisfy even the first level of the pyramid. In connection with the example of the forest:

With each passing day we allow the society of Bulgaria to turn into a jungle of trees wrapped in vines. We allow the seeds of our quality herbs to fly / through a terminal / to the meadows created by the Europeans. A large percentage of poor quality remains here, and then a prime minister says "poor quality material" and we shout, lying to ourselves, "it's not true." Yes, but we know for ourselves that most of the quality ones flew to Europe and America and so from here the remaining over 90% are "poor quality material". When our low-quality Roma come to France, they return them to us by charter, when our educated children go to the same country, it gives them opportunities for development and makes them even if they do not want to go to Bulgaria and in the future their grandchildren know. we speak only french. With each passing day we allow the society of Bulgaria to turn into a jungle of trees wrapped in vines. We allow the seeds of our quality herbs to fly / through a terminal / to the meadows created by the Europeans. A large percentage of poor quality remains here, and then a prime minister says "poor quality material" and we shout, lying to ourselves, "it's not true."

Yes, but we know for ourselves that most of the quality ones flew to Europe and America and so from here the remaining over 90% are "poor quality material". When our low-quality Roma come to France, they return them to us by charter, when our educated children go to the same country, it gives them opportunities for development and makes them even if they do not want to go to Bulgaria and in the future their grandchildren know. we speak only french. With each passing day we allow the society of Bulgaria to turn into a jungle of trees wrapped in vines. We allow the seeds of our quality herbs to fly / through a terminal / to the meadows created by the Europeans. There remains a higher percentage of poor quality and then a prime minister says "poor quality material" and we shout lying to ourselves "it's not true". Yes, but we know for ourselves that most of the quality ones flew to Europe and America and so from here the remaining over 90% are "poor quality material". When our low-quality Roma come to France, they return them to us by charter, when our educated children go to the same country, it gives them opportunities for development and makes them even if they do not want to go to Bulgaria and in the future their grandchildren know. we speak only french.