Hello, dear readers! I often come across men in this forum who complain that they did not know what women want ... In one such topic (old woman) I came across a very meaningful comment, with which I fully agree in my capacity as a woman. I want to share it with you: "Dude, when I was your age I thought I knew nothing about women. Five years later I thought everything was clear to me. Now it's five more and I think I'm more confused than like I was 20. The only thing I might have realized is that they like you to be natural. Be yourself and try to get better. Don't imitate, don't imitate, don't simulate, don't parade, don't overplay. to be honest Then it's good to have a sense of humor and to be careful You have to come from inside to be careful, not by definition, pay attention to small gestures, and they so often escape us. A real lady will appreciate opening the door, placing her at the restaurant table, taking off her coat when undressing, not that you want to pay her bill and leave a big tip. Be a gentleman - not just a gentleman, but a real gentleman. This means being brought up not only with women, but also with other men. Be a strong character - you have to be able to withstand blows, but also to hit yourself when necessary. You will always be appreciated when you show that you have the will and the mind. Be sensitive and gentle, but don't hesitate to punch the table when you know you're right.
If you do something wrong, apologize. If she has sinned - forgive her. However, if she has broken your heart - you cannot forgive, you withdraw with dignity. "I hope it's useful to someone! Greetings: Boronia putting her at the table in the restaurant, taking the coat when she undresses, not that you want to pay her bill and leave a big tip. Be a gentleman - not just a gentleman, but a real gentleman. This means being brought up not only with women, but also with other men. Be a strong character - you have to be able to withstand blows, but also to hit yourself when necessary. You will always be appreciated when you show that you have the will and the mind. Be sensitive and gentle, but don't hesitate to punch the table when you know you're right. If you do something wrong, apologize. If she has sinned - forgive her. However, if she has broken your heart - you cannot forgive, you withdraw with dignity. "I hope it's useful to someone!
Greetings: Boronia putting her at the table in the restaurant, taking the coat when she undresses, not that you want to pay her bill and leave a big tip. Be a gentleman - not just a gentleman, but a real gentleman. This means being brought up not only with women, but also with other men. Be a strong character - you have to be able to withstand blows, but also to hit yourself when necessary. You will always be appreciated when you show that you have the will and the mind. Be sensitive and gentle, but don't hesitate to punch the table when you know you're right. If you do something wrong, apologize. If she has sinned - forgive her. However, if she has broken your heart - you cannot forgive, you withdraw with dignity. "I hope it's useful to someone! Greetings: Boronia Be a gentleman - not just a gentleman, but a real gentleman.
This means being brought up not only with women, but also with other men. Be a strong character - you have to be able to withstand blows, but also to hit yourself when necessary. You will always be appreciated when you show that you have the will and the mind. Be sensitive and gentle, but don't hesitate to punch the table when you know you're right. If you do something wrong, apologize. If she has sinned - forgive her. However, if she has broken your heart - you cannot forgive, you withdraw with dignity. "I hope it's useful to someone! Greetings: Boronia Be a gentleman - not just a gentleman, but a real gentleman. This means being brought up not only with women, but also with other men. Be a strong character - you have to be able to withstand blows, but also to hit yourself when necessary. You will always be appreciated when you show that you have the will and the mind. Be sensitive and gentle, but don't hesitate to punch the table when you know you're right. If you do something wrong, apologize. If she has sinned - forgive her. However, if she has broken your heart - you cannot forgive, you withdraw with dignity. "I hope it is useful to someone! Greetings: Boronia but don't hesitate to punch the table when you know you're right. If you do something wrong, apologize. If she has sinned - forgive her. However, if she has broken your heart - you cannot forgive, you withdraw with dignity. "I hope it is useful to someone! Greetings: Boronia but don't hesitate to punch the table when you know you're right. If you do something wrong, apologize. If she has sinned - forgive her. However, if she has broken your heart - you cannot forgive, you withdraw with dignity. "I hope it's useful to someone! Greetings: Boronia
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Well, I know all this, but something is wrong. :) Abe needs to be an oligophrenic and that's it. But in fact I'm myself and I'll stay, I know it didn't work out, because it's not his time now, I'll meet the girl who is destined for later me and so on. :) and I will prove to her that not all boys are pigs !!!
Thank you, Boronia! Thanks for posting a comment like this in a separate thread. Even greater thanks to the man who wrote it. Everything is really said very precisely. I hope more men read it and mostly understand. I'm a girl, but if a man (as described by the person who wrote the comment) behaves this way, it's absurd not to pay special attention to him and not make a good impression on me. I doubt that there is a lady who would not notice this type of behavior and she would certainly be left with a very good impression.
I'm a lady, I don't care about opening the door, taking the coat, paying the bill ... I wouldn't even like it at all. The man must be a MAN above all - not to grumble, not to complain and not to cause regret. The woman to feel weaker, to feel protected and protected in his company. At least, as a very strong character, I would like such a man next to me to make me feel good.
Boronia, what does it mean to retire with dignity ??? In my case, after two months of silence on my part and on his part, I appeared and he did not react. He must have retired with dignity ...
Hello, Number 1, precisely because of such considerations as yours, I released the topic. If oligophrenics fall for oligophrenics, that's their problem. You, if you like normal girls (not ugly, but just normal thinking, there are beautiful ones among them) and if you REALLY are what you claim (because psychologists distinguish between ideal and social self - image), you will always shine . Number 2, and I thank you for your comment :) I hope these men learn a lesson, and not just mutter, because there is no more repulsive sight than the grumble - be it male or female ... Number 3, thank you too, that you complement the picture with our "desires". Number 4, you shouldn't ask me. I said I was quoting a stranger's opinion, which I liked. Only he knows exactly what he means. I personally think that retiring with dignity means not allowing your partner to play with you on "come, go", which is humiliating and nerve-wracking for everyone. Some women think they get very interesting that way. In fact, they only deserve you to show them the door. (I'm not claiming that you're one of them, I don't know your case, I just remembered) I wish success in the love of all True Men and all Ladies! Boronia
From number 4. Okay, but nowadays the roles are changing. The man releases the bait, then pretends to be inaccessible, uninterested, or appears and disappears whenever he wants, and the woman is the one (if she is very depressed) who is tormented and waiting, or if she is smarter, she plays with his cards. For me, this is not decent behavior of a man.
To number 4: Yes, you're right. There are many such men. I myself suffered from such. But I took it off in the end :) I was very nervous, but I decided that I wanted it too much to give up. I used to think like you - that this behavior is "feminine" and that he should be the one doing the "dirty work", not me. However, now I think something else - so we can emancipate ourselves, wear pants, become politicians and officers, determine the family budget, and they can not be pampered? I think that we, the women, are the ones who "turned" or more precisely mixed things up. Well, there are matchmakers. But, just as it is implied for them that the active one is the man, so it is implied that the woman must listen ... I don't know if it is decent behavior for a man ... Not much, I guess. But we made them like that. In any case, Sleeping Beauty is already out. Even if we don't like it, we have to fight for love on an equal footing with men, and sometimes, unfortunately, more than them. But, what ... Try to be a conqueror, there are some nice sides :) Only, however, if the man is worth it or you really want him. It is not humiliating to fight for your happiness, no matter what our grandmothers say :) Good luck! Boronia
I agree with everything the man said. Perhaps it should be added that women hold on to their freedom and do not tolerate anyone taking it away from them. Allow your wives to be themselves and do what they want without restricting and isolating them from the world. This also applies to jealousy. We like you to shower us with attention, even if you show a little jealousy, but not too much! Excessive jealousy sooner or later fails a relationship. Remember that two people cannot live apart from the world. No matter how good it is for both of them, the woman will always need at least her friends! As for jealousy of girlfriends, it is absolutely pointless! Most men don't like their boyfriends' friends, but understand that this is not important. It is important that she gets along with them. If so, you can't take them away from her. Girlfriends are one of the most important things for a woman. Meg *
"If you're wrong about something - apologize. If she's wrong - forgive her." answered the father? That his biggest mistake was that he didn't apologize to his mother when she cheated on him. Hmmm, yes, that's probably the way to go. Thanks!
Congratulations on the topic! But I still think that with her and with the descriptions of each woman individually what she likes or dislikes in a man, you will completely confuse the insecure members of the stronger sex. Why not state quite clearly that you need exactly one look to understand what the man is against you. And if eventually your impressions are negative, what should the male do to intrigue you. Everything else is ala / bala and to some extent hypocrisy, just so as not to violate male dignity. It may sound arrogant, but I speak like a man - sharply and directly. As the female half falls for hints, detours, conspiracies, ambiguity, and after the whole maze of jokes with the straightforward and logical man, the mess in his head becomes twice as big. So when you see someone in that situation, stop and tell them honestly, no bad feelings - your dude is lame: vision, appearance, character, style, approach, etc., etc., and not to bypass it by throwing up the trivial phrase - There are passengers for every train. And the other thing that goes through my mind on the second line is: - stop shouting at the soft man - good! There is a huge difference between the mollusk that fulfills your every whim and the well-meaning macho. Not to mention the laughter that overwhelms me when I hear you tell the anxious man to behave naturally. Well, ajeba, the curtain has fallen in front of his eyes and he can't say the title, what's the use of being a dandanik in his mind - Be natural ... tell him frankly that this job won't be her and it will work on what complicates / worries him. Whoever thinks I am wrong, let him put his hand on his heart and say,
To number 10: I released the topic :) What's confusing? You keep asking what we wanted. Well, here's what. And that's what a man, obviously a connoisseur, says. You are right about the known dose of hypocrisy. However, sometimes the truth is so repulsive that you are ashamed to tell it, or looking at the crushed face of the "victim" awakens maternal feelings and makes you feel sorry ... It's awful, I know, but what to do. I remember a hyper-addict who didn't understand a word and kept following me, thinking that if he got very annoying and pretended to be a big heavyweight, his parachute would open. I stubbornly avoided him. Then he stopped greeting me, as if to make me become more active, to lose his tensions. He even pretended to court others in front of me ... I was happy! And I also stopped congratulating him. So, 4 months. Once, I meet him again and feel that he set an "ambush" for me. I tried to avoid him, but a chair blocked my way ... He shouted at me: I want to talk. I cut it, he cut it again .... Hel, I agreed. He asks me what was wrong? I told him that I was annoyed by his behavior towards me, that he was very "aggressive". It was true. But not the whole :) If I had said everything, it would have read: "You are disgusting, I can't stand you, everything in you is disgusting and disgusting - vision, voice, manners ... Disappear, I can't look at you!" Is that what I say? This is not always the case for the eyes either. When I saw my husband for the first time, I hated him a lot. It seemed to me the most unscrupulous bison - a tensioner on earth. Not so now. For some women, there is also a "second chance for a first impression." I don't call soft things good. I make a difference :) But not everything other than macho is a mollusk. I, for example, I like gentlemen :) Real, not fake like "I read that I have to". Unfortunately, you are right about the latter. Those who couldn't say their "title" either had to cure their complexes, or ... give up the game voluntarily. Every intelligent lady wants the man next to her to be herself. If you can't, don't even try (unless you're a professional downloader :), because you'll fail with a bang. The truth is cruel. Women fall in love only when they call themselves "the best". My first lover was clinically crazy and very ugly, but for me he was a "hero". Aren't you "special", you fall out. The ugly leagues waiting for the "prince" will immediately jump to deny it. But ... and they wouldn't be wrapped up in anything if they had a choice. Good day everyone!
Many empty tales in one place. If we assume that there are several basic types of characters (with countless variations and features), then the desires of women vary from one extreme to another. The masochist cannot escape her needs and will not prefer a tolerant and understanding partner. He will look for a "MAN on the spot" so that there is someone to tap on the table. The indecisive will look for navigators .. The romantic and eccentric ladies will look for poets and native talents .. The independent and emancipated, they will look for a weaker character, etc., etc. There are no recipes for a good man, nor for a good one. woman. My option is as follows: 1. "Reminds me of my father" - to drink like him or sleep like him, to have the same thrill or similar timbre. 2. "There is chemistry" - fits her sexually. 3. "
Hello again, I'm number 3. №11 and №12 made very interesting comments. Concerning the dose of hypocrisy - I do not agree very much. For example, I do not tolerate hypocrisy, twists, etc. - I say everything in plain text. Especially since I've raised my nerves, I say everything in my head. And I do this, not for the man at my meeting, but for myself. So that it doesn't weigh on me, I want everything to be clear. I agree with Baronia, very often at first glance I do not like the person opposite, things happen later. I agree with her also because I would not allow myself to fall in love with the wrong person. We allow ourselves when to indulge in emerging feelings and when to draw the line. By "inappropriate" you mean ugly, stupid and weak, for example. A complex of negative qualities. And when we ask ourselves - is there, ahem, this person has positive qualities and if we do something with him. If we are able to swallow the rest at the expense of the good ones. And money is not important, I want to note, on the contrary, I will say 2 things about money: 1 a rich man can never have the qualities of a poor man. 2 money is power. The richer the man, the more connections he has. The risks are great with such a person. He can harass you, threaten you, abuse you, and you can't do anything because no one will stand up to him. By the logic of №12, I am a masochist. But if a man touches me, he must forget about me. He just forgets about me for a moment, because the world will look black to him. I hate such men the most, they are so weak that this is the only thing in which they are stronger. And if a man reminds me of my father in any way, there's no way.
From Number 10 :)) Boronia, very accurate and on-site answer. I wanted to provoke such a discussion in order to reveal the real reasons for the failure of some men. Because not everyone is curious about women's emotions and what's on their minds. Most did not suspect that even the way they were cut told them veiledly what they needed to change in themselves. Since I mentioned that many members of the stronger sex will be confused when reading the topic, I will clarify what I meant. Most of us (men) do not have an approach to the fairer sex. They rely on the simple scheme that the way they dumped one woman is working and try to intrigue another with it. It is this group that will be most confused here because they do not consider individuality as a factor. It just needs to be explained to them, that action must be taken according to the situation and there is no universal method of dumping. Which immediately raises the question - How to choose the right method from our arsenal and now check if it works? Regarding the choice, I personally consider the woman and the place where the action takes place. Seconds later, I can tell by her body language if I'm on the right track. Non-verbal language is an extremely accurate indicator and can rarely mislead a person who can read it. In the end, it turns out that a man must first and foremost be able to impress. He can do it in various ways, but with them you have to stand out above the others in order to be quoted better. Recently, I see a large number of men describing themselves as 25-35 years old, provided with housing, average salary, not bad in appearance and yet lonely. Calluses came out on my fingers to write to them, that by describing themselves in this way they fall into the column of normal (mediocre), boring. As if they have no individuality. I mention it because they are a clear example of how, with the lack of skill to intrigue a woman, even though everything is more than fine, they fail to qualify. Finally, it will be interesting to superimpose the male and female opinions on the issue in 2 columns and make a brief analysis, just to illustrate what a huge gap there is between the two sexes :)
Number 12 is included again. And in order not to feel like a numbered prisoner or a Jew in a concentration camp, I will give myself a conditional name - Temenuga. Number 3/13, I felt compelled to answer. I do not deny the caste division, but let us not divide people into rich / poor. He agreed that we subconsciously look for one thing in men - security. Every lady has her own claims, requirements, criteria ... but in the end the main thing is one - whether the person next to us can be a suitable father of our children. And if the woman is the bearer of comfort and peace in the family, then the man is the main bearer of income and must be able to provide for their loved ones (at least these are my understandings). I suppose that I'm not the only one thinking in this direction - we are genetically set ... that's how we are structured. And in this line of thinking, "rich man" is not an end in itself, but an equivalent of "man,
I completely share the opinion of №3 ... there is nothing more ugly and annoying than constantly whining and dissatisfied people ... especially a man who expects something to happen to him in case of absolute inaction on his part ... abe pathological cases ... you run away quickly from such individuals ...