Grandma is blind and a widow. He can't do anything alone. Her son, my father's brother, refused to look after her and sheltered her, he didn't have to. My mother also does not want under the pretext that my father, her husband died a long time ago, and she is not her daughter. I ask what your opinion is, because you say on the site that no one owes anyone. Well, in the end, this woman has no one to take care of her, she just can't handle it because she is in poor health and has difficulty moving. I emphasize that the grandparents were conscientious parents, they did not deprive anyone of an inheritance, if it matters. According to the grandmother, her son is ungrateful and feels betrayed. According to her son, the children are not obliged, according to my mother, she is not obliged either. What is your opinion? Is the grandmother demanding, is the son ungrateful, is my mother selfish? By the way, you can see but for this purpose the operation costs BGN 800, and she does not have this money, and my mother and her son do not want to give BGN 400 each, although only a few years ago they received half a house and BGN 10,000 from sold lands that the grandfather lived in. he conscientiously sold them and distributed them between his mother and son, because he wanted them to be equal and fair to all. My personal opinion is that if the parents were conscientious, the children should respond with the same if necessary, and you can't just leave a defenseless person on the street. After all, my mother is watching her now, but she "accidentally" forgets to feed her, serve her, etc. and she goes to work, and of course, because I live nearby, I have to go change her diapers and the like among all my family and work responsibilities. At the end of May, my brother and I will give these BGN 800,
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Well, that's really disgraceful. If it was a question of giving 400 for viewing and they didn't do it, it's a crime.
Her son and mother are ungrateful and selfish. It is inhuman to leave an elderly and helpless person without care. Yes, it is not easy to take care of such a person, but care may include paying for home or home care, it is not necessary to do it personally. Strictly speaking, once they receive her inheritance, they should take over and share her care. It can also be agreed that one will take care and the other will give up his share. Otherwise, the grandmother can attribute her property to someone (an outsider) in exchange for watching while she is alive and it will be a completely fair deal. I wonder if people will not give BGN 400 for an operation so that she can see and be more independent, given that they receive property from her for a lot more. I'm sorry, but your mother is completely selfish, and so is your uncle. They are BGN 400, damn it, they are not BGN 400 thousand!
Yes, it always is. While the old can be served by everyone is a great relative and heir, all six, we are an example to follow all. However, if any of the old ones crash, watch the show. Then everyone shows their true face. No one will disturb their natural comfort and take the old one with them. See if it's all about getting their share of the inheritance ... watch the show again. Each of them will make each other bigger and deserving of the lion's bite. However, the old people are to blame for everything, bequeathing everything to their heirs during their lifetime, thinking that in this way they secure their antiquities. On the contrary - if you attribute something in your life, you are doomed to wriggle in the dump until your last days, nothing that you have built a home all your life. That is why I do not bequeath or attribute anything in my lifetime - while I am alive it is mine and no one has the right to it.
I am not religious, but I believe that we should respect some moral values and try to help each other. Don't want to give BGN 400. for surgery by a family member. To "forget" to feed an old and sick person, obviously on purpose ... is too much. Nobody wants to look after a sick person, it is a big burden - physically and mentally. I took care of my father, changed diapers, went to hospitals, warmed blood banks, and so on. It's hard, but if you don't help, then you have nothing human in you. If they don't want to see her, at least try to find her a good nursing home. We will all grow old and die. This ingratitude returns.
Your son and ungrateful man, believe me, everything will return, and your mother is selfish. If I am a grandson, I will take money from friends and pay for the operation and live with it and work to pay it off. I will draw conclusions about what kind of people I am surrounded by and I will just want to use them and throw them away like rags. Never leave a person in trouble.
And where does your grandmother live? Does he have a home now? If there is, take care of her, and she will transfer the house to you, otherwise her ungrateful son will inherit it again!
Get everyone together and who can give and pay as much as possible. Also have surgery on this woman. If he can see, at least he can take care of himself.
They do not have to look at her in person, but they can pay for the operation and find a woman to look after her or send her home. Your mother doesn't really owe her if she's not a direct relative. But she is her son.
The heirs are obliged, you are also included in this number. You can look for a home for the elderly.
Author, as far as I understand, you are an adult and married, and you don't really look at the things you described. Of course, I also have a heart and I feel sorry for my grandmother, but the truth is that no one owes her. One must think about old age before one grows old. There is no certainty who will look after you, nor is there any certainty that your children will be in Bulgaria at all when you are an adult and weak, nor is there any certainty that the worst will not happen and you will outlive them. After all, your mother takes care of your grandmother, good or bad, she takes care, and you help, why do you think they owe you and you have no obligation to your grandmother? Does your brother help you? You describe the situation from afar as if it were about strangers, not your relatives. You're talking about her son, not your uncle, you're talking about your grandfather, not your grandfather. You say they inherited, but from living adults, Is this heritage called? According to the law, this is a gift, not an inheritance, if you think about it and you will realize that it is so. And the gift does not oblige anyone with anything. Besides, when your mother received this money, she hardly spent it for herself, for a cruise, for example, she probably gave a large part of it or even all of it to you, her children, or at least she invested it for your future inheritance. Does it make sense while you are healthy to give away all your property in the hope that the person you gave it to will look after you if you get sick? Especially when you know your son and you know that your other son has died. If you talk about BGN 800, it is most likely a cataract, but if you think about it, if you talk about diapers, eye surgery will not improve the condition of the grandmother and she will still be in diapers and will not be able to take care of herself. I had a familiar family with such a grandmother, and as the grandmother saw, she got the courage to cook while they were gone and set their house on fire, running from the fire she fell and her pelvis was broken. So sometimes browsing is a dangerous thing. In my opinion, if you intend to watch it, take it home, pay for its operation and then watch it. If you do not have such intentions, help your mother and do not give a reason what to do.
Number 10 has an incredibly perverted logic that is familiar to me. This is the logic of that troll defending the Bulgarian hoteliers - give your money to them, even though they are rude to you because they are Bulgarians. This user just can't be mistaken. I found out in the middle of the comment. In several topics for holidays abroad before, I was strongly impressed by the logic, style and tone, which are quite typical, and most specifically - the distortion of facts so that their meaning is turned 180 degrees against the author against any logic. Opinions always appear in topics on which everyone commenting is unanimous and suddenly a boom! - the man with the perverted logic turns everything upside down, catching every word how it was said, which was more accurate, etc. This is a complete MP for me. Thanks! So you say no one owes Grandma, because she had to think for herself about her antiquities and not look around so as not to set fire to the apartment. hahaha I wonder how one can think and guarantee from a young age that there will be someone to look at it in the old days. Hey, I'm young and I want to think from now on. I'm waiting for advice.
My grandmother is so left, I try to help her, the others - no interest. They rarely visit, she is 90, they don't take a loaf of bread from her, but they take pictures with her, as if they see each other a lot. I feel sorry for all this theater, but everyone has their head on their shoulders, the important thing is that my conscience is clear one day.
Very bad. The typical Bulgarian picture. They take the money, drink it (figuratively speaking) and now it was not their problem. Tighten up with your brother and pay, so that the woman does not suffer.
The grandfather is guilty because he did not make the donations with an obligation to look after them. By law, your mother has no right to the inheritance, and you are the heiress. As for caring for your grandmother, the case is moral. For me, the topic is provocative, because this site persistently argues that children are not indebted to their parents, and they must provide their own old age.
14, things are really relative whether the children are obliged. In my opinion, the answer depends on the parents. There is a story that whatever called, that called. Here is another thesis that you have to push good and throw it away, so as not to wait for anything in return. By that logic, the grandmother should spit on everything she has done all her life for her children and not expect anyone to help her while she is in trouble as she is now. This is complete madness for me. Yeah Al that sounds pretty crap to me, Looks like BT aint for me either. Well, if she doesn't expect anyone to go to bed and die, she has no choice. Even one argued that he did not do good, so as not to be disappointed. By his logic, the grandmother should have abandoned her children or not at all if they happened to be ungrateful. In general, all sorts of ridiculous ones are passed here. But there is a small detail - it is one thing to develop hollow theories in share.net, another is a real situation in real life. Life is not like knocking on the keyboard.
No one owes anyone, but here we are talking about elementary humanity. The woman has achieved enough in this life, she has raised two children, she has worked, she has given her heirs what they need. Now she is weak in the full sense of the word, age is catching up with everyone. Today she is in this situation, tomorrow it can be any of you. It is not bad for someone to take care of her, if he does not care to look after her, at least to place her in a home where they will not forget to feed her. I would take care of you. We are not talking about your uncle's mother, your mother's mother-in-law, but your grandmother. It is very easy to look at the situation from afar, but you are not a distant relative, you are not someone. Anyway, everyone cooks, a plate on top does not weigh. I want to tell you that BGN 800 for an operation is not so much against the background of those thousands that are often required. Nowadays, there are nursing homes, caregivers and all sorts of other options. This woman does not want much, just to continue living - food, water, bath, diaper change and a little talk. She didn't force you to do something, but she really needs it and she can't do it alone. In fact, she asks for help, it is important to her, we are talking about her life in the end. One of you just has to slap yourself, tighten up and allow yourself to react to what is happening.
14, even if they are formed with duties to look after, the almost blind grandmother in diapers will hardly go to prove that she has not been looked after. It is clear that others do not care, give the grandchildren 400 for their grandmother's sight. One day the inheritance will come to you. And help as much as you can without looking at who doesn't. It's always some people watching their lives, and others watching the old ones - this movie and I play it and I'm super uncomfortable, not for anything else, but because I have a life and if more people help, it's different. To be one means to have children, families and to whistle, and you are at the expense of your personal life. And no, I'm not talking about inheritance. Well, it's not fair somehow. But some of us can't leave the adults and just go take pictures there, as if they were monkeys and supposedly very well cared for. I don't know what conscience these people have.
Let me just ask how did you find out that the author is She and not Him?
Well, some pseudo-freak parents just don't deserve to be bullied. And most in Bulgaria are just such brats. They make children just to have slaves by skinning them, and while they are raising them they are crushed and kicked in misery. And from where to where will they be obliged to watch them? !! Killing with stones for shivers that make children to have caregivers to keep a man / woman, because it SHOULD, because the family has hinted that it was time for children. Children are made if you have the mind, money and desire. To rejoice in them, to bring them up as people, and not as a scoundrel with swearing, kicks and slaps, to make a man out of them and keep them alive, not to be their first enemy. If this is not the case with your grandmother, then yours are the freaks.
18, in that He would not change His grandmother's diapers, and would not seek advice on a site where 10 people give 10 different ones.
I am generally in favor of a story always having at least a few points of view. That is why I will say mine. The way you talk about these people - my grandmother, this woman, not my grandmother; my grandfather, not my grandfather; his son, not my uncle, talks about you not being close at all and not being close ... or that it happened after your father died. They were not part of the life of you, your brother and your mother, and therefore you do not feel them as part of the family now. But you say they were conscientious parents and now the grandmother does not deserve such treatment. This leads to Thesis 2 - Were they really conscientious parents? Often the children (grandchildren) are not familiar with the whole picture and quite often they are pushed various pink pictures so as not to be involved in the drama. Why some conscientious parents are not conscientious grandparents (without interfering with the money), why weren't they close to you and your brother? Why isn't this woman's own son interested in her after she was a good mother? No one who loves his parents more than anything would abandon them. And in order not to love your parents, then they have done something wrong along the way. It's easy to attack your uncle and say he's selfish and ungrateful, but the truth is we don't know his story. And sometimes some 10,000 can't buy you when you've been really hurt and betrayed by your own family - unfortunately there are similar cases. Let's look at your mother's point of view as well. If your grandmother wasn't a good mother-in-law and they had some misunderstandings in the past, it's perfectly normal for her not to want to look after her now. For example, my grandmother, when my mother gave birth to me, instead of helping, knocked on purpose, to wake me up and all sorts of other things, because for some reason she didn't like my mother. For many years they did not talk at all and passed each other on the streets, later they allegedly improved their relationship, but I was old enough to see how hypocritical everything was. So if your mother has been hurt in some way, it's perfectly normal for her not to want any contact with your grandmother, and if so, if I'm right, that actually makes her an extremely strong person, as long as she takes care of everything. Another option is not to feel close to her. Maybe she says to herself "where was she when I needed to go out for coffee for 2 hours and someone to look after my children". Your grandmother was not a grandmother in the true sense of the word, since you do not feel close to her, so it is the same way your mother feels her as a stranger and that money cannot buy him. Unfortunately, many people think that having some money and giving an inheritance, everyone should worship them, but the truth is that BGN 10,000. nowadays they are nothing, and if you were a naughty person they are even bigger nothing. Inheritance can't buy lost years, it can't make you a better grandmother or mother, it can't correct mistakes. But no matter how naughty a person you are, no one deserves to die alone in torment. And here we come to my conclusion - no matter what kind of person your grandmother was, whether she was the best mother, grandmother, the most terrible, it does not matter. No one should be abandoned by their family. Gather this family and decide what to do. Many people have advised you to send her to a nursing home, but the truth is that it is not cheap at all and will be difficult to take on by one person. It would be much easier if you divided the cost of it into four - between you, your brother, your mother and uncle. In such moments you have to turn your back on the past, selfishness and ego and give the best of yourself.
№18, isn't that enough for you to answer the question for yourself - "because I live nearby, I have to go change her diapers and the like among all my family and work duties."? Would a man change his grandmother's diapers?
21, you beg too much. This could, it implies, too much picking without knowing anything in particular. You remind me of one handed out by a boss who thinks he analyzes very well, reads people and the like. He read two books on body language and took it for granted that he took it seriously. He interviewed a young girl, who curled up, folded her arms. After the interview, she shouted "she's not happening, she's not open to people, she's crossed her arms." I shout "drum, stop smoking in the room to ventilate January, it is normal to shrink to an open window January". So many are those who have believed that they are analysts and without any information make some grandiose conclusions.
23, then let's not think and just pounce on our uncle that he is the most horrible man in the world and does not want to take care of his own mother for no reason. Because if you don't analyze things, that's exactly how it turns out.
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author to 21 complete nonsense you wrote
26, I very much doubt you are the author, but come on then give some clarification? I don't see what wrote 21 so badly that you attacked it. I also think there's a reason for everything, disregarding the fact that people get angry en masse and ... it doesn't even surprise me so much that someone doesn't want to take care of their mother. And yet I am also looking for a reason. And don't they teach us exactly that in school - to analyze, to understand the feelings in the text, from the fact that the curtains were gray? Haha
Good authors. 21 is wrong. Now tell your story. Your mother and uncle may be irresponsible, but where are you in the whole story? Take care of your grandmother and point.
Pity! Too bad! And sad! Babati has raised an ungrateful man, and if I'm with you, I'll tell him in his eyes. He didn't deserve anything. It is a pity that the woman did not leave these 10,000 to have the operation and to improve her condition as much as possible. I became sad, sick ... I don't know how old you are, but if you have the opportunity to help your grandmother, don't hesitate.
22, if I could answer myself, I wouldn't ask! But now everything is clear! Only sexists have gathered here! I couldn't change papers ... to my grandmother! ?? Yeah, and if he had a baby, would he be able to! ??? Well, the sexists are here, honestly!
If you love your grandmother, take care of her. What does it matter if you owe it? No, you don't have to. The truth is, no one counts your points. You do it for your personal peace of mind.
27, I never understood why it should be analyzed at all. What you need as information is written. The other is gossip. And a person can write just to share, not to look for a calf under the ox and analyze how close he was, who was a shoddy parent, etc. What is the need to pick at other people's lives, I do not know.
By the way, in normal countries, these lenses she needs are free, so people can see, it's cruel here, because if you don't have money, you lose your sight if someone doesn't give it to you. Can you imagine where we live?
33 and what is the amount of health insurance in the "normal countries" you mentioned, each employee pays more than 300 euros a month, right? And what kind of economy do they have and how many of their able-bodied population work in other countries and pay their health and taxes there? We know very well where we live, in a country where 100% of pensioners and the disabled are here waiting for pensions and insurance, and where 60% of the working population works abroad and pays taxes and social security contributions there. In a country where doctors fill out documents for fake operations to withdraw from the health insurance fund, etc. etc.
Abe, find 400 grandchildren for your grandmother's sight. How do you sleep at night, people? The ones you call elderly, single people "pseudo-parents-freaks", I quote a comment above ?! Give them those 400 leva for the woman, well, she watched, she didn't watch ... You participate in pseudo-donation programs for strangers, post heartbreaking posts on Facebook shit, and leave your elderly relatives alone, sick and unhappy. I don't have Facebook, but I'm always up to my 90-year-old grandmother, who needs me and tomorrow my conscience will be clear.
Well, you are all a bit of a jerk and you are the same: D not like a real man to be a fan in your hands and say to yourself Hey, I'll give these BGN 800 to the grandmother to see and see in the last years of her life, and you say "Will we give them to my brother so that he can take care of himself?" If I'm not there, I'm not waiting for ours, I'm wintering with me and that's it. Yes, if she sees, she will be more useful and will be able to help a little. I kill for my grandparents, I will do everything for them because they helped me a lot, they raised me because they traveled a lot, and now and now, even though I have a husband and we are big, they give some money, send a jar, help in common lines with what they can, so it. But how can I forget to feed her, so at least everything comes back when you help yourself, help may not come back immediately, but it will always come back.
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Up to 38 It seems painful to you, but it has always been so.
It is really not human to leave a woman like that, no matter what she has done, there is someone to judge her. My grandmother was blind, and when her grandfather died, her sons' families came together and decided to take care of her for a month, taking turns. She lived separately, but close to all of us. I must say that she was quite a shitty and irritable woman, no one was happy to look at her, but no one resigned from his duties. Be human first.