I am almost 26 years old. I dare say that I am a very attractive and liked woman. I met a boy three years ago and we liked each other a lot as characters. We went out several times for coffee, dinner, bars. He was very nice company and an interesting person, but somehow there was no thrill. I only felt him as a friend. But very close - we wrote to each other almost every day, he gave me advice and helped me with everything. He tried several times to kiss me, to talk to me about sex, but I pushed him away. It does not happen by force. But I really enjoyed it. A year and a half ago, I met the man I am still with. Things happened relatively quickly, and it so happened that for the first few weeks I didn't answer the chat or pick up other people's phones. I later apologized to that boy for being very busy. Everything seemed to be OK.
We agreed to meet again for coffee. But then my friend came and there was no way. Then he got angry. I tried to persuade him not to fret, he said that our relationship was just exhausted and he didn't care about me. A year and a half has passed since then. I wrote to him several times during this period. He answered me politely, we exchanged a few sentences, but somehow it didn't work out. I invited him for coffee, he still refuses, he was busy. My friend is not jealous and agrees to have male friends. But even though he avoided me, he did me a great favor. I had problems and I urgently needed BGN 1,000. I asked him for help and he, although we were already estranged, gave it to me. A year later I called him to see him, to give them back to him. And he refused again! He insisted that I transfer them to his account. I didn't want to, I wanted to see him. He got away with something like "I'll see you, but don't spend that much cash. Send them now, I'll call you for coffee. "He got his money, thanked me, and covered himself again. He was busy. I lost my job recently. I asked him for help. He said," Send me a resume and I'll see what I can do to help. " he didn't want to see me again. I was angry with him, I asked him why he was avoiding me for a whole year. He said directly "well, I don't want to see you, that's it. I don't feel good in your company. "I asked him why he was angry, but he said he wasn't. He pointed out that he always helped me, but he just didn't want to be around me.
I asked him why he didn't want us to be friends. And he answered quite rudely." you don't want to have sex with me? I explained to him that these things don't happen by force if you don't feel them. He said, "That's right, I totally agree. It's exactly the same with friendship. I respect your decision, Respect mine too. "I cried, shouted at him on the phone that he was an idiot, that I didn't deserve such treatment. And he answered me in a very wooden way." Look, I understand that you are upset. But I just don't want to see you right now. If you ever change your mind and you still want to, I'll see you. But not now. "It's been a year and a half, can't I overcome so much that I chose another one? Egati the poor thing! And I thought he was my friend! Why are men so stupid? I just want to see him and talk, that's it. can't I overcome so much that I chose another? Fuck the poor thing! And I thought he was my friend! Why are men so stupid? I just want to see him and talk, that's it. can't I overcome so much that I chose another? Fuck the poor thing! And I thought he was my friend! Why are men so stupid? I just want to see him and talk, that's it.
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I don't see what bad the boy did. In his place, I would not help you at all. You are upset because you have lost a valuable orbiter (see the term "beta orbiter" on Google). Since your friend is so great, why doesn't he get you out of another mess once? Or are you just with him because he attracts you purely visually?
I'm very happy with him, but he's fucking the poor thing ... huh? And why do you want to see each other so much? I know why. Because he has stopped paying attention to you and raising your self-confidence that you are very liked. Because he understands that there is really no point in communicating with you. Just look at the end of the story and you will answer the question why. Beneath the apparent friendship you are talking about is the typical female desire to make him want you again. I'm just wondering in the mind of this boy how he gave you 1,000. On top of everything, you are asking him for a favor a second time, but he is guilty. The unfortunate person you actually call that has realized that he doesn't need you and that there are much better women to meet and much more important and interesting activities than wasting time with you. You seem very attractive, and the end of your story exudes low self-esteem and anger that a man has stopped liking you. I am very interested in how exactly do you imagine your friendship? What are you going to talk about? Or I will listen to your female nonsense and nonsense about how your friend was bad and does not pay attention to you, and he will stand meekly and give you advice. Your statements and the whole topic in general are quite pathetic in the interest of the truth. I expect a huge percentage of disapproval against you, and separately I expect you to attack me and all such comments about how sincere you are in what you write and how complex we are. Women like you, you are supposed to be very attractive, you are taken very seriously, I am glad that there are still men who do not take the ceremony not to waste their time with such causes and to scratch your fragile ego.
Male 25 I am very interested in how exactly do you imagine your friendship? What are you going to talk about? Or I will listen to your female nonsense and nonsense about how your friend was bad and does not pay attention to you, and he will stand meekly and give you advice. Your statements and the whole topic in general are quite pathetic in the interest of the truth. I expect a huge percentage of disapproval against you, and separately I expect you to attack me and all such comments about how sincere you are in what you write and how complex we are. Women like you, you are supposed to be very attractive, you are taken very seriously, I am glad that there are still men who do not take the ceremony not to waste their time with such causes and to scratch your fragile ego. Male 25 I am very interested in how exactly do you imagine your friendship? What are you going to talk about? Or I will listen to your female nonsense and nonsense about how your friend was bad and does not pay attention to you, and he will stand meekly and give you advice. Your statements and the whole topic in general are quite pathetic in the interest of the truth. I expect a huge percentage of disapproval against you, and separately I expect you to attack me and all such comments about how sincere you are in what you write and how complex we are. Women like you, you are supposed to be very attractive, you are taken very seriously, I am glad that there are still men who do not take the ceremony not to waste their time with such causes and to scratch your fragile ego.
Male 25 and he will stand quietly and give you advice. Your statements and the whole topic in general are quite pathetic in the interest of the truth. I expect a huge percentage of disapproval against you, and separately I expect you to attack me and all such comments about how sincere you are in what you write and how complex we are. Women like you, you are supposed to be very attractive, you are taken very seriously, I am glad that there are still men who do not take the ceremony not to waste their time with such causes and to scratch your fragile ego. Male 25 and he will stand quietly and give you advice. Your statements and the whole topic in general are quite pathetic in the interest of the truth. I expect a huge percentage of disapproval against you, and separately I expect you to attack me and all such comments about how sincere you are in what you write and how complex we are. Women like you, you are supposed to be very attractive, you are taken very seriously, I am glad that there are still men who do not take the ceremony not to waste their time with such causes and to scratch your fragile ego. Male 25 supposedly very attractive you took yourself very seriously, I'm glad that there are still men who do not hesitate not to waste time with such causes and to scratch your fragile ego. Male 25 supposedly very attractive you took yourself very seriously, I'm glad that there are still men who do not hesitate not to waste time with such causes and to scratch your fragile ego. Male 25
Echo, why do you think your boy owes something? He gave you 1,000. borrowed (this is quite a serious amount, not everyone would agree to give it), he helped you as much as he could, and you call him unfortunate ... He had very clear intentions towards you. And when someone has such intentions, you can't be friends. It is quite selfish of you to demand anything from him. So, if you have "both the wolf is full and the lamb is whole" - ie. to have an intimate partner, and at the same time a faithful friend, who is always at your disposal when you call him, and at the same time to throw crumbs at him. After announcing his intentions, the boy withdrew and decided not to humiliate himself anymore. I don't see anything strange in this - this is his way of overcoming and overcoming his feelings for you. My request is to read the story again and try to see what it looks like on the sidelines. M32
Aahha what are you women for? Tales?
There is no friendship between a man and a woman! He will be uncomfortable looking at you if he likes you and you can't reciprocate. You have a friend - talk to him. It should meet these and all needs. Terribly stupid to insult the boy, given that he helped you with such a sum, but such are the women ... ungrateful
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Look, my girl, Nature has its laws, and one of the strongest and irrevocable of them is the Instinct for the continuation of the genus. So asking such questions is like asking, "Why is the water wet?" or "Why is the Earth round?". You say yourself - you are young and beautiful. So, in your opinion, when is the best time for "men not to understand that you want them as friends"? When you turn 60, and your purely human qualities stand out, then you will make friends and collegiality (because you will already be appreciated as a professional) ... Calm down! There is time for everything in this life ... :)
Well, why do you want 1000 leva from your "boyfriend" and not from the boy you live with, have sex and love?
Well, there is no such simplicity. When you don't pick him up and don't want to see him, you're just "very busy." And when he doesn't want to, he's an "idiot" ... And no, not that he can't beat you. You are hardly such a sex symbol. You've just resisted him enough and he doesn't want to deal with you after the time he's lost. And this for the so-called "friendship" ... Usually the phrase "I just want to be friends" means: "You don't like me and I think I can find something better, but on the other hand I think you're enough dumb to keep you around and be able to help me if I'm late, keep me company if I'm bored, or yell at you if someone dumps me "My advice has always been, in this situation, women should look for each other" friend "Gay." But the shopping center. They are still not satisfied
Author, the man was fair enough to help you in difficult times, in fact he did you services that many friends would not do. But he has also decided for himself that he cannot be your friend because he is interested in you as a woman, so to pretend that he only wants a friendship from you would be false. Respect his decision, he also has the right to choose, just as you did yours.
When one man goes hunting if he fails to return with his prey, it is logical to move on to the next. What do you expect him to walk on your ass and sit in the friend zone all his life to be your soul basket?
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He pulls it for money and then he's miserable, why don't you take it from the one you're with? I wouldn't give you a penny, looking at what he said to you. I don't think he would even talk to you if he knew what you thought of him. Egati hypocrisy ...
Women are the same. At university I had a colleague who was in love with me and haunted me for 3 years. We had been friends before and we were together every day, we always went for coffee and she somehow sank. But I was with a boyfriend and it wasn't in my style to spin 2 at the same time. So in the fifth year she started to stay away from me, to meet other men, and after graduation she flatly refused to see and hear us. And so more than 15 years passed, during which time we had no information about each other. Wouldn't you like that last year I had a job in the central branch of a bank, there I was sent to an office with an employee and bam !, it turned out to be my former colleague. We talked a little, we did our official work and she lost me. I also offered to see you for coffee, he refused. That is, obviously her ego is quite large and cannot swallow the fact
From what you have written, I will tell you that you are the selfish "unfortunate". Your ex-boyfriend has acted with dignity and explained to you quite accurately that he no longer wants to have anything to do with you. I would do the same, but much sooner than him. And I wouldn't give you any money. Don't expect anything from him - his trust in you is exhausted and he already sees you with different eyes. The problem is that you think that men (and the world) should revolve around you. Wait as you get older to see how much attention they will pay you.
The boy feels fucked up. He certainly loves you more than your current boyfriend and has put a lot more effort into having you, while that dude snapped his fingers twice and it worked. His dignity is violated and he does not feel like a man in your company. That he does you a favor shows that he is asleep. I have such a girlfriend too, I like her very much, I was in love, but she found a drummer who didn't pay attention to her and didn't have time for her. She actually spent more time with me than with him, but in the end guess who slept with her - damn, the cool dude. We are still friends, but in principle it was not very ok. So it is here, if you break up with your current boyfriend, see how he will agree to see you. You'll hang around his neck too ... and so on until the next big dude, and the boy will be fucked again.
I think you want to play a princess and have a retinue. If you don't want to be close to him - then you don't like him enough - it's very simple. Not only have you lost him a year and a half, but you still want to lose him. Men can always find "girlfriends" - all women are like you, everyone wants to "share". Me - share with your boyfriend, why is he different?
Everything is ok without the service part. With what eyes do you want money and help from a person with whom you have treated badly and do not communicate? You are very impudent and have no dignity. A woman tells you that. Ask your husband for help, not foreign men. You are a user and you are glad that he suffers for you. It will pass, you are not the only one for anyone.
And why are you women so crazy? She doesn't want to see you, she was a woman - so much. Bass the princess - some coffee, don't you want pancakes ?!
Sorry, but no wonder men accuse us of using them. Because you did just that - you took advantage of the fact that he liked you and that you would do everything to make him look like a good and powerful man in your eyes. Your friend (boyfriend) should be your support, why didn't you ask him for money, why didn't you ask him to help you with your work? And what if you tried to get your money back. It's super stupid not to see someone and suddenly call them just because you need something. And don't pretend to be tweaked, all women KNOW when a man likes us and WE KNOW that if we do that sucks him. Because of women like you who don't think with their heads, they label all of us that we are gold diggers, users and so on. Darling, let me tell you one thing - there is no such thing as a TRUE friendship between a man and a woman. You just can't really have a partner and share your problems with the other person, and not with him. There is ALWAYS interest from one side, at least initially. Men are hunters, they are looking for a woman for themselves, not a friend. You have no right to be angry with him, but he has every right to be angry with you and to protect you. And if you still think this thing, he's obviously not the unfortunate one in this situation. Grow up and stop depending on other men!
He is right about himself. He wanted something more from you. And no, I'm not talking about sex - if it was just that, it wouldn't help. I also don't want to be friends with men I would want for a serious relationship. Yes, it's nice with them, but you want more, and it doesn't happen and you suffer in their company. You can't just be their friend. If it's just a sexual attraction - it happens, but when there is a strong attraction and you want more ...
Because we don't care about your interests and what's happening to you, we want sex. If you are an attractive girl, no one wants you for a friend, and we will always look at your ass and hope for something more. Such is the masculine nature, we are primary. The interest in us is less and therefore we are the hunters, that's why I don't want girlfriends girls, because I either fall in love or get excited by them if they are beautiful!
While there are balaclavas, there will be thugs, and this dude ... I don't know how you spend so much time on the whistle, and you don't know how you are so brazen and impudent. Friendship between a man and a woman cannot exist, sexual tension always arises, and let's be realistic, your vision of friendship is, to put it mildly, a matter of interest. He gives you money, he looks for a job for you, to cry when you need him, and you don't know what you do for him. Is there no one to slap him and bring him back to reality, I'm just sorry.
You are selfish. Respect the person's decision. There are already other girlfriends to see - you are not something special, how will you hold him accountable and that you will roar on the phone as if you are in a relationship. Just swallow your ego and stop being so obsessed with yourself. Let the man live his life. He swallowed you. It's time for you to do the same. F26
For most of the day, men only think about sex. Several men have told me. So don't be surprised.
You may think you're right, but you're not quite right. The boy liked you, you cut him off and made him feel bad. He's dumb, you've found a friend on top of everything, and I guess the boy was even more hurt. I think it helps you because he wants you to be happy, with or without him. He doesn't want to see you because he's hurt. Just a guess.
Things are very simple. You gave him the green light at the beginning, he fell for you, and you finally cut him off. You found a friend and it hurt him even more. He decided it wasn't helpful for him to have any relationship with you anyway. Understand that friendship between a man and a woman is a difficult task, especially if the woman is good looking and free.
I am a woman your age. But I'll tell you, it's very naive to think that a man who's talked to you about sex will want you to "just see each other and talk." He understood you very well that you didn't like him the same way, so he withdrew. If you don't want it, leave it.
I am a man in exactly the same situation but with a much larger amount of money that I have given and many other impossible services that I have done and I also do not refuse meetings but once a month at most. The reason is that I don't spend every day with my friends anyway, and near me I go crazy giving everything for nothing.
You accuse him of being a jerk, and you do the same because he didn't want you to be friends. Well, he doesn't want you to be friends and he told you very correctly "It's absolutely the same with friendship. I respect your decision, you respect mine too", but you don't respect his decision, because there will be no one to help you when you need money or a job. And in spite of everything, he still helps you, and you, out of gratitude, force him to see you staring and call him unhappy because he doesn't agree. It is close to the mind that when you have strong sympathy for someone, and you know that there is no way, it is not very nice to see each other and all the time in your head is just the thought that you want it so much, and there is no way . It's like giving a dog his favorite sausage, but through a glass and torturing him, knowing that he can't get it, only that his saliva is flowing,
You want to use it as you see fit, but you don't want it to use you, at least your body. Man has spent a lot of time in vain hoping for development. You end up throwing yourself at someone and you think there's no problem. When you don't understand why he does that, really explain to you what prevents you from stripping naked in front of your precious friend. Are you disgusted with him? You may not experience anything special, but you will make him happy. But you don't want to, and at the same time he has to please you and jump in readiness as if she were your secretary. You are very deluded.
That's right - n2 said it right. The author is so arrogant, I just wonder how my generation came up with such impudent and empty women ... Good luck
Just imagine for a second that the roles are reversed and you are unhappily in love, and the person you love lives his life with another and from time to time uses you sometimes for company, sometimes for services. Alpha, w. 30 years
It itches and it hurts :)
Yes, and I do not understand when we are looking for you only for sex, why are you weird? The post identifies the consistency of female nature - my comment is unlikely to say anything unwritten. I can only say that I am waiting for someone who thinks I am also orbital and to ask me to borrow money, but he will make it on time!
Don't waste it - he won't understand you. The girl simply confuses "friendship" with "exploitation." ;))
Don't you have a girlfriend? There is no friendship between a man and a woman. Especially when one likes the other.
From all the work, it seems to me that you want to maintain a relationship with this person just because you have a specific benefit from him, not for anything else. The person is obviously financially stable, and they are quite heartbroken when he lends you 1,000. He just doesn't want to be around you because he doesn't want to torment himself and look at you from the side with the other. I don't think he just wants to sleep with you and have a relationship. Leave him alone, watch your life with the person next to you and stop pouring salt into the wounds.
The topic should be - "Why don't I understand when someone doesn't want to be friends with me?" or "How do I stop annoying people?" The author is for a psychiatrist with a twin ego, watching without cover. Good day.
Maliii, everyone fed her as she should))) Author, come on, look around a bit, right ....
The article was written to provoke a reaction. The author has made the mistake of turning into a woman who is both stupid and writes correctly.
"Then he got angry." "Fuck the poor thing!" Author, it will take someone like me to think you're simple! You know, if it was just sex, you'd be less angry. The current boyfriend, since he doesn't mind having male friends, probably doesn't mind having sex with them?
Don't waste it - the article is fake. There may be a dose of truth, but the author is the one who played it. These women may be stupid, but they are not so stupid as to write such a thing here. However, let it be a lesson to anyone who really wants to be a 'good boy with unshared feelings'. And by the way - I've never seen a man secretly bargain for a woman and she liked him afterwards. There will not be and there will not be. Whether you like your wife or not as you are long before you think about her. And she rarely changes her mind unless you really "shine" in some unexpected light.
You killed yourself from comments .. In the other sections, where people share where there are more serious troubles, ten people write, but here it is ... oh, it's the basis .. Cheers Author, I am an attractive and liked woman and I've had situations like yours several times. There is no friendship between a man and a woman unless he is gay, but sometimes they also fall for scumbags. So forget about that idea. Greetings.
It is obvious that the lady obviously does not understand what friendship is. I am very interested in someone saying that we remain friends. friendship. Man gets it harder than sex about the real we are talking about of course. But this is the story and here we witness how two people want the most valuable that friendship and sex can offer the other and it is normal for a woman not to give sex, but it is not normal for a man not to give his friendship, how sad that obviously women do not have real girlfriends and friends ...
It explodes.
Another proof that when a woman wants you "just for a friend", the most sensible thing is to stop all contact with her. I have come to the same conclusion on the basis of many (like the boy in history) services I have done to such women in the vain hope that they will appreciate what I do for them and allow me to be an intimate partner.
I don't think the man did anything wrong. He told you very correctly. He respected that you don't want sex with him, now you respect his desire. I completely understand it. I couldn't just be friends with a boy I like. I personally have a lot of male friends who, once they realize that they don't interest me as sex partners, fight her as just friends, without hints, without anything. Some even got boyfriends, but we keep writing. But not everyone is the same, there are people who do not agree. And it has happened to me that someone understands that I do not want to be anything more and terminates the contact with me. In that case, I'm not angry with them, I understand them. The important thing is that he behaved politely. He must have helped you because he hoped you would let him go. Men are like that. Sex is not forced. It's the same with friendship.
Didn't you say you have a boyfriend or did I have a vision from what you wrote?
I'm a woman, but I can't take your side in this case. Put yourself in his place for a moment. Imagine that you meet a cool man who attracts you a lot and maybe even you are in love. At one point he tells you that he wants you to be friends and he doesn't want anything more. Wouldn't it be masochistic on your part to maintain such a relationship? The young man was just honest. He wants something more simple .. it will be a torture for him to be just friends ... And notice, despite everything, he comes to your aid ... He even gave you 1000 ... I think that he really has strong feelings for you. Step back, let him outlive you, and maybe at some point you'll really become friends. And I would advise you to apologize to him for screaming. G30