My question is to those more familiar with the technology of winemaking. I bought both homemade wines and from a store. The difference is so great that it looks like two completely different drinks. Homemade wine literally smells and tastes like grapes and does not have the typical sour taste that kupeshki have. Even the characteristic precipitate of grape substances is sometimes obtained. It is not a question of a different quality at all, but of a radically different taste and a radically different drink. As long as the kupeshko is sour, even if I drink more than 1 glass, I get heartburn. It is clear and much finer as a liquid, not cloudy like homemade. And most importantly, the home warms even from just half a glass and the way you feel is completely different. It relaxes you, warms you and makes you very light and pleasant. These feelings are not present in the coupes. I tried different wines, incl. and a little more expensive for about BGN 20-30 a bottle out of pure curiosity with the hope that at least they are made of real grapes. Not that it's super expensive, but still. I drank wine in Spain, they are better than ours, but they are still not like home. What caused this Aren't even the slightly more expensive ones made from grapes? Or is the technology different? Are there any at all that resemble pets? And if there are, are they very expensive? Does industrial technology have anything to do with domestic technology at all? In my opinion, wine is wine and it is the fermentation of grapes. Unless they do it directly with alcohol. But do they do it even in Spain? I don't understand why they are so different. Even I, who do not understand guilt, feel a striking difference. Not that it's super expensive, but still. I drank wine in Spain, there are better than ours, but still not like home. What caused this? Aren't even the slightly more expensive ones made from grapes? Or is the technology different? Are there any at all that resemble pets? And if there are, are they very expensive? Does industrial technology have anything to do with domestic technology at all? In my opinion, wine is wine and it is the fermentation of grapes. Unless they do it directly with alcohol. But do they do it even in Spain? I don't understand why they are so different. Even I, who do not understand guilt, feel a striking difference. Not that it's super expensive, but still. I drank wine in Spain, there are better than ours, but still not like home. What caused this? Aren't even the slightly more expensive ones made from grapes? Or is the technology different? Are there any at all that resemble pets? And if there are, are they very expensive? Does industrial technology have anything to do with domestic technology at all? In my opinion, wine is wine and it is the fermentation of grapes. Unless they do it directly with alcohol. But do they do it even in Spain? I don't understand why they are so different. Even I, who do not understand guilt, feel a striking difference. What caused this? Aren't even the slightly more expensive ones made from grapes? Or is the technology different? Are there any at all that resemble pets? And if there are, are they very expensive? Does industrial technology have anything to do with domestic technology at all? In my opinion, wine is wine and it is the fermentation of grapes. Unless they do it directly with alcohol. But do they do it even in Spain? I don't understand why they are so different. Even I, who do not understand guilt, feel a striking difference. What caused this? Aren't even the slightly more expensive ones made from grapes? Or is the technology different? Are there any at all that resemble pets? And if there are, are they very expensive? Does industrial technology have anything to do with domestic technology at all? In my opinion, wine is wine and it is the fermentation of grapes. Unless they do it directly with alcohol. But even in Spain do they do so? I don't understand why they are so different. Even I, who do not understand guilt, feel a striking difference.
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"In my opinion, wine is wine and it is the fermentation of grapes." Wine is grapes, the process of fermentation, barrel and ripening time. The grapes themselves depend on everything you can think of. How wet was the year, the soil, the altitude, the slope of the soil, how the sun burned it, is it close to the sea, groundwater and others. And then you have a huge number of varieties. When the wine is harvested, the right bunches must be selected. The best producers select a very small percentage of the grapes, making a good collection, and the rest goes to ... not so prestigious bottles. Then the sugar in the wine is measured and depending on how much it is and what results you want to achieve, and then follows the fermentation process, which also requires specialized care. Then it is important how you store the wine. This also makes a big difference, but most home producers use plastic containers, which is one of the reasons you feel the wine a little differently compared to the mass "kupeshko". And it is also very important there - what kind of wood it is, what kind of wine there was in it before, in what kind of room it is stored ... Unfortunately, this is often missed. Few people have the patience (and the place in particular) to keep their wine that way for years. The rotten wines are from companies, they buy tens of tons of grapes, load them in trucks, mix them hard, make no selection at all, filter, no matter how much someone is poisoned, add "aids", add their aromas, just and only , to "smear" them. Some ferment for a few days, kept in unwashed metal containers, where they have the aroma of each harvest of the year in which they were put into operation, they flash their corks with aromas and reinforce them directly to the shops. Wine for 20-30 leva is not a guarantee that it will be good. In Italy there are also wines for 3-4 euros, which rely on the fact that they are Italian, and they reach us for 25-30 levs per bottle, but they are the same garbage. In general, you will not find good wine in a store like Billa. Know that the best wines are quite expensive because they are kept in barrels for a long time, picked by hand, discarded a large part of the grapes and take far greater care. Ask one of your friends where they do it themselves. They spend dozens or even hundreds of hours a year in this and everyone will tell you that there is a "masterpiece", and that is where the secret of good wine lies (after good pride, of course). they flash their corks with aromas and reinforce them directly to the shops. Wine for 20-30 leva is not a guarantee that it will be good. In Italy there are also wines for 3-4 euros, which rely on the fact that they are Italian, and they reach us for 25-30 levs per bottle, but they are the same garbage. In general, you will not find good wine in a store like Billa. Know that the best wines are quite expensive because they are kept in barrels for a long time, picked by hand, discarded a large part of the grapes and take far greater care. Ask one of your friends where they do it themselves. They spend dozens or even hundreds of hours a year in this and everyone will tell you that there is a "skill", and that is where the secret of good wine lies (after good pride, of course). they flash their corks with aromas and reinforce them directly to the shops. Wine for 20-30 leva is not a guarantee that it will be good. In Italy there are also wines for 3-4 euros, which rely on the fact that they are Italian, and they reach us for 25-30 levs per bottle, but they are the same garbage. In general, you will not find good wine in a store like Billa. Know that the best wines are quite expensive because they are kept in barrels for a long time, picked by hand, discarded a large part of the grapes and take far greater care. Ask one of your friends where they do it themselves. They spend dozens and even hundreds of hours a year in this and everyone will tell you that there is a "skill", and that is where the secret of good wine lies (after good pride, of course). that will be nice. In Italy there are also wines for 3-4 euros, which rely on the fact that they are Italian, and they reach us for 25-30 levs per bottle, but they are the same garbage. In general, you will not find good wine in a store like Billa. Know that the best wines are quite expensive because they are kept in barrels for a long time, picked by hand, discarded a large part of the grapes and take far greater care. Ask one of your friends where they do it themselves. They spend dozens or even hundreds of hours a year in this and everyone will tell you that there is a "skill", and that is where the secret of good wine lies (after good pride, of course). that will be nice. In Italy there are also wines for 3-4 euros, which rely on the fact that they are Italian, and they reach us for 25-30 levs per bottle, but they are the same garbage. In general, you will not find good wine in a store like Billa. Know that the best wines are quite expensive because they are kept in barrels for a long time, picked by hand, discarded a large part of the grapes and take far greater care. Ask one of your friends where they do it themselves. They spend dozens or even hundreds of hours a year in this and everyone will tell you that there is a "skill", and that is where the secret of good wine lies (after good pride, of course). you will not find. Know that the best wines are quite expensive because they are kept in barrels for a long time, picked by hand, discarded a large part of the grapes and take far greater care. Ask one of your friends where they do it themselves. They spend dozens and even hundreds of hours a year in this and everyone will tell you that there is a "skill", and that is where the secret of good wine lies (after good pride, of course). you will not find. Know that the best wines are quite expensive because they are kept in barrels for a long time, picked by hand, discarded a large part of the grapes and take far greater care. Ask one of your friends where they do it themselves. They spend dozens or even hundreds of hours a year in this and everyone will tell you that there is a "skill", and that is where the secret of good wine lies (after good pride, of course).
Homemade wines rarely go through filters and therefore, as they say, they have a body (as you put it, there is sediment and it is not clear), they have no stabilizers and the first grapes are made, but their durability is small. How to make Kupesh wines, you have 1 ton of grapes, you bet 500 kg and you make wine and this is the best wine, it is most often offered at exhibitions, fairs, etc. Then to the material left over from the first wine is added about 250 kg of grapes and a second wine is made, it is also good and these are the expensive wines in the shops and so as much wine can be made and respectively the price and quality falls. For a cover, after the grapes have already given what they can for wine, Kupesh brandy is made :))
You can also clarify homemade with bentonite. For me, the opposite is true, I have not come across a good homemade wine for a long time. But when I buy wine I follow a few rules 1. The cellar should have its own arrays. Those who buy grapes - no. Now there is a new good standard, but was it called ZGR ... I will lie to you. This means, for example, that Melnik is made of Shiroka Melnishka vine from the Melnik region, Mavrud from Asenovgrad, etc. 2. The cellar should be small, the process should not be so mechanized. Coca-Cola mass production - no. 3. The harvest. White and pink for a maximum of 2 years. Red can be up to 3. That is, now we are looking for a white harvest 2018.9 and red until 2017. 4. If it will be expensive, it should be stored properly. Seeing wine corked sitting on a shelf for months ... Emmy, it's not ok. High risk of having a plug that I would not take. Wine with cork, you have to sit at an angle, wet this cork. I don't know if it's right to tell you a few cellars to try. But I will advise you, if you can't find your wine, to try one-variety. Many people around me drink only blends and sepagas and don't even know which variety they like because they haven't tried them individually. Try Syrah, Cabernet Sauvignon / Fran, Merlot separately, see what turns you sour and avoid it in blended wines. I am now passionate about Bulgarian varieties, I rediscovered Melnika and Gamzata, I found some cool young producers who have good vineyards, even organic certified and have a relationship. Finally, a good Bulgarian wine for under BGN 15-18. the bottle is almost gone. I'm talking in a store, from a cellar you can find it for 12. Although they pop up. We make blind tastings and write a supposed variety, harvest and price class and recently there is a Sira (the cellar is Ivailogradska), which is valued in the middle price class (15-25 BGN) and costs 7 BGN. But this is a rarity.
Because in BG alcohol everything is alcohol and essence, plus various stabilizers and nonsense. There is no real quality control in Bulgaria, if you give money under the table, no one checks you. I don't know about the wine, but when I drink 4 pitchers of beer in England, I'm fine, I feel fresh and slightly drunk. The same amount of beer in BG and I'm drunk, with a headache and a dry mouth. When I return to BG, my relatives and I sit down to drink homemade brandy. The last time I drank a lot, but in the morning I was relatively fresh, without feeling sick and sweating. If I had drunk the same amount of alcohol, I probably would have been in the hospital, haha. Tsar Kiro had said it - the Bulgarian thinks he drinks brandy, but in fact he drinks alcohol plus essence.
№3, you are somewhat right, but you forgot to say that everything happens with the addition of sugar and water, and it turns into ordinary ethyl alcohol. Homemade wine is made only from grapes, and Kupeshki is mainly sugar alcohol, dyed with residual marc from the first wines. What is under BGN 10 is the fourth wine, said a technologist who worked in a winery.
Replacement is total, everywhere and in everything. Remember there was an ad "Traditions are not what they used to be". Just understand the cynicism of the message and you will understand why it is so everywhere. At least you feel the difference. Most don't feel it and don't even care what they put in their bellies. After a generation or two, no one will be able to tell the difference.
That's how I hated wine - I always drank half a glass before and then vomited! I don't know what they put, BUT it's certainly NOT pure grapes !!! From a young age she starts to feel sick, and in the morning I have a headache !!! That's why I don't lick a drop anymore!
No.5 this is exactly the reason why the English came to Bulgaria to get drunk from drinking on the Sun. In England, the drinks, despite the labels, are not as strong as ours. There is some behind-the-scenes control of alcoholism in the country. How will you drink 4 beers as they are just water. Especially Guinness beats me straight on clear mountain water. At the time, when I was 15 and drank a real Zagorka beer, I got drunk without a label. Now I also get drunk, but with a headache, because just like no.6 said there is already alcohol in everything.
To 9 Is getting drunk like a boast a boast? And these losers, who come to pour on our shores, did not come to see the opera in the amphitheater, you know.
From 5 to 9. Dude, haven't you ever thought that the English beer is just normal and better quality, not "weak / clear water", and that ours is actually a super low-quality alcohol and that's why we get drunk from the most the little one. Think about it. I drank other beers, for example Servesa in Spain, also Polish beer (come on, Polish is stronger) but real beer doesn't make you drift after 1 liter.
Until 11: Just to know that there is no Servesa brand in Spain. Just Spanish means beer :) Otherwise you're right about the rest.